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| Well yes both us and Widnes beat you this season.
Talking of your big derby game you should be concentrating on making sure you don't bottle it in the playoffs this year, to lose not once but twice to the Saints was pretty shocking when you had the double to play for.
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I thought you had to win the Grand Final to be called champions...........leaders maybe.......champions not for the last 50+ years......
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| Quote ="Famous"Warrington fans in obsessed with Wigan shocker
It is really getting quite boring and they plainly havent got a clue about RL and even their own club. They feel so insecure about their club that they need to keep trying to justify how big a club Warrington are, on a Wigan forum, when quite frankly most Wigan fans couldnt care less. As I said Saints are our big derby game, Warrington fans should be concentrating on teams on their own level and of a similar standing like Widnes.'"
Your fondness for sweeping generalities reveals your paucity of thought. It's fine that you couldn't care less, but if you make preposterous assertions that you hastily half-withdraw then you've only yourself to blame if you provoke Wire fans into naturally defending their club.
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| Quote ="Famous"Warrington fans in obsessed with Wigan shocker
It is really getting quite boring and they plainly havent got a clue about RL and even their own club. They feel so insecure about their club that they need to keep trying to justify how big a club Warrington are, on a Wigan forum, when quite frankly most Wigan fans couldnt care less. As I said Saints are our big derby game, Warrington fans should be concentrating on teams on their own level and of a similar standing like Widnes.'"
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The written language is obviously a little difficult for you. If you wish to join in at least use a new smilie, thats the second time on this thread you have posted that.
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| Anyone who doesn't know Sally's posting style with both 2 and 9 years on these boards is a bit 'stupid'.
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| Quote ="Famous"The written language is obviously a little difficult for you. If you wish to join in at least use a new smilie, thats the second time on this thread you have posted that.'"
not at all ,its just that when i started too read the *total pap* you wrote about wire and wire fans being obsessed with wigan, ( see im sleepy again having to look at your post again ) ,i just tended to get rather sleepy !oh i have also found a new smillie ,just for you enjoy
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Your fondness for sweeping generalities reveals your paucity of thought. It's fine that you couldn't care less, but if you make preposterous assertions that you hastily half-withdraw then you've only yourself to blame if you provoke Wire fans into naturally defending their club.'"
I am not withdrawing everything. Warrington have been a club that have generally been a small-average club at best throughout RL history. Until the move to your new falt pack Tesco stadium your average attendances were always amongst the worst in the league and have usually been in the bottom half of the league. Clubs that are now in the lower leagues such as Halifax even averaged more than you, when they were in the same league at the same time, and again a number of RL clubs have had as much if not more success than Warrington. Additionally Wilderspool was a dump and until the last couple of years Warrington had not won anything for years. For all these factors Warrington have never been considered a big club. I actually pity the glory hunting Warrington trolls that populate these boards who know so little about the clubs history.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"
Talking of your big derby game you should be concentrating on making sure you don't bottle it in the playoffs this year, to lose not once but twice to the Saints was pretty shocking when you had the double to play for.'"
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| Quote ="Famous"I am not withdrawing everything. Warrington have been a club that have generally been a small-average club at best throughout RL history. Until the move to your new falt pack Tesco stadium your average attendances were always amongst the worst in the league and have usually been in the bottom half of the league. Clubs that are now in the lower leagues such as Halifax even averaged more than you, when they were in the same league at the same time, and again a number of RL clubs have had as much if not more success than Warrington. Additionally Wilderspool was a dump and until the last couple of years Warrington had not won anything for years. For all these factors Warrington have never been considered a big club. I actually pity the glory hunting Warrington trolls that populate these boards who know so little about the clubs history.'" --------------- its you i pity ,its be very ,very painful for you everytime you have to try and take your head from up your own ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"There's a difference between losing a playoff game and bottling it. I know some Wigan fans on here regard Warrington as a big team but in reality Warrington are a medium sized or even small club, with no real pedigree of winning trophies so just to get to the playoffs is a huge achievement for a club of our size. To put us against a big team like Leeds who wins the Grand Final most years we are always going to be underdogs.
It's different for Wigan though as Wigan are the biggest club in rugby league and have been the most successful club of all time, when they are in playoff rugby there is no excuse not to win. You would not get sides with Shaun Edwards or Dean Bell in it losing their nerve when it came to playing a relatively weak Saints side in knock out rugby. And if they had lost once you could be sure they would come out and cream Saints the next time. The problem with Wigan last year is they came out fearing Saints the second time round and were never in the game, they let Saints boss them around, whilst all season Wigan had looked a stronger team. That is bottling it and its something Shaun Wane needs to get on top of this year if Wigan are to ever hope to return to their greatness of the past.'"
Not biting at that one
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| Quote ="Famous"I am not withdrawing everything. Warrington have been a club that have generally been a small-average club at best throughout RL history. Until the move to your new falt pack Tesco stadium your average attendances were always amongst the worst in the league and have usually been in the bottom half of the league. Clubs that are now in the lower leagues such as Halifax even averaged more than you, when they were in the same league at the same time, and again a number of RL clubs have had as much if not more success than Warrington. Additionally Wilderspool was a dump and until the last couple of years Warrington had not won anything for years. For all these factors Warrington have never been considered a big club. I actually pity the glory hunting Warrington trolls that populate these boards who know so little about the clubs history.'"
I diagreed with your description of Wire as '[ia rather small club with no real fanbase[/i' over its history which is a clear untruth. You then marked us up to the elevated heights of 'average', a sensible withdrawal of which you should be proud. Your own knowledge of RL history is clearly extremely limited, and now you're reduced to feeble insults about Wilderspool ( a very fine stadium indeed in its day, just like Central Park was in the 1950s ) and choosing 'falt pack' (sic) in reference to the HJ, a description that better fits Wigan's forwards. You're clearly not on here to seek enlightenment, however, so please stand with the other 'glory hunters' as you describe them - you'll find that you fit right in.
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| I just don't get this obsession with calling a club 'big'. Sport is cyclic, RL especially so, and some fans find it hard to give credit to another club. Wigan were nearly relegated 6 years ago, Saints and Leeds have fought over the Grand Finals and Challenge Cups, Wire won two Challenge Cups recently. All clubs have history, some more than others, but that isn't necessarily any indicator of what will happen in the future, or how 'big' a club is.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"I just don't get this obsession with calling a club 'big'. Sport is cyclic, RL especially so, and some fans find it hard to give credit to another club. Wigan were nearly relegated 6 years ago, Saints and Leeds have fought over the Grand Finals and Challenge Cups, Wire won two Challenge Cups recently. All clubs have history, some more than others, but that isn't necessarily any indicator of what will happen in the future, or how 'big' a club is.'"
It's worse in football. A lad I flatshared with at uni supported Forest and he never shut up about how they were a bigger club than Arsenal because they'd won the European Cup.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"It's worse in football. A lad I flatshared with at uni supported Forest and he never shut up about how they were a bigger club than Arsenal because they'd won the European Cup.'"
This is quite true, and a couple of successes are often just a blip in a mediocre existence.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"I just don't get this obsession with calling a club 'big'. Sport is cyclic, RL especially so, and some fans find it hard to give credit to another club. Wigan were nearly relegated 6 years ago, Saints and Leeds have fought over the Grand Finals and Challenge Cups, Wire won two Challenge Cups recently. All clubs have history, some more than others, but that isn't necessarily any indicator of what will happen in the future, or how 'big' a club is.'"
What he said. Best post on this thread.
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| Quote ="Famous" Additionally Wilderspool was a dump '"
Wilderspool Tuesday Night..........
Look at the lovely lush turf better than your footy ground.....
Central Park Tuesday night
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shame you didnt experience Central park otherwise you would have realised it too was a dump as was every other Rugby ground that I visited from 1979 onwards. Don Valley stadium in 1991 being the first decent ground.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Wilderspool Tuesday Night..........
Look at the lovely lush turf better than your footy ground.....
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shame you didnt experience Central park otherwise you would have realised it too was a dump as was every other Rugby ground that I visited from 1979 onwards. Don Valley stadium in 1991 being the first decent ground.'"
central park wasnt in that bad a state, you can go to wakey, cas, bradford, HKR, and Leeds now and central park was in a better state than them all. You obviously havent seen the pitch at the DW for a while if you think it isnt in a very good state. You would still be at Wilderspool if it wasnt for Tesco and the ariel liquatabs so I would keep that one under your hat flower.
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| Quote ="Pieman"central park wasnt in that bad a state'"
Read the chapters in John Monie's book about the final years at Central Park to find out how bad a state the ground was in.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Read the chapters in John Monie's book about the final years at Central Park to find out how bad a state the ground was in.'"
I dont need to I was there....
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| The old girl was in bad shape by the end, it's true, but CP was a special place.
No other ground in RL even comes close to the aura that CP had. Anyone that's been on that ground when it was full or close to full and starts to think about it will feel the hairs start to go up on the back of their neck. The atmosphere was incredible. It was a venue of legends.
I'm too young to have seen Boston and his generation play but to go there as a lad and watch Hanley, Edwards, Gregory, Bell and the rest was a privilege.
The people I feel most sorry for are the Wigan fans who are too young to have been able to sample the atmosphere at the greatest rugby ground in the world. They have been denied their heritage by the failure of the management of the club to protect its greatest asset.
Still, better to have loved and to have lost.... Enjoy your memories of Wilderspool...
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