The trouble is the last time we paid massive money for the 'best prop in the world' he rapidly became crap. I'm not sure we should rush to take the same gamble again.

Sounds to me like Graham may be hinting that he's available should someone have the money. But I don't think this necessarily ties him with Wigan. Under Ian Lenagan, we don't seem to be in the market for players who expect a quarter of the salary cap as remuneration for their services.

Agreed, if the rumours of Fielden's money are true, and even if they are not i think its still clear he is going to be on a huge wage we could get 2 players that would in my opinion put us into a position of challenging for honours consistently.

Assuming Fielden is with us next year, i would retain his money and make a move with the wage for Eastmond as a priority and a Prop for 2011. To combine Eastmond and Tomkins at club level would be a huge boost to any teams chances of success in SL.

that puts a end to the Graham rumour

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You can't put a price on those two at HB for us! IL will have cap space free and he should be looking at Eastmond as his No.1 target.

The prop situation sorts itself out with Hock

i wouldnt be too sure of that! wait for the announcment next week.



fielden will be making way for graham.

Are people seriously suggesting that Saints would let both Graham (their best player) and Eastmond (one of the top young talents in the country in a position we struggle with) come to Wigan.

What would our fans say if we gave them Tomkins and O'Loughlin?

Some of the whinging gits sat near me would say this could only be a good thing

Eastmond comes off contract at the same time as Fielden! All it takes is a word in Eastmonds ear to say a good chunk of Stu's wages has been ear marked for him and we will have him at least thinking about the swap!

Guess it comes down to who wants him the most after that!

There not the tosspots sat near us at the DW against aussies who keeped saying Slater would get found out in SL

Agreed. But if you don't ask, you don't get.

They wouldn't have much of a say if Wigan can offer them more then they can(if they're off contract) and the players were willing to take the coin on offer.

Wigan should make a huge play for Eastmond imo. He's a quality young player and has the potential to be truely world class. It could help Wigans cause that he has an agent who will try and get him to go to the highest bidder.

It's a long shot but worth a go imo.

Unfortunately, I think this is the reason why he'll end up in Union at some point. Just suppose he plays really well on Saturday? The hotter the property he is, the more they'll be interested. As for Eastmond, he may at the present time be young and naive enough to want to stay and make his name in RL, but money will talk in the long run - as it did with Gasnier, SBW, Sailor, etc. No matter that they all ruined their careers, they also got very rich, which when they had families and mortgages to pay became the bottom line.

I think there's a bigger danger of Eastmond defecting at present than almost anyone else. He's got that 'running back' look about him, which seems to be nine points of the law where Union scouts are concerned.

I'd love us to get him - I'd love anyone to get him rather than see him go to Union. But I'll be amazed if it happens.

The comparisons to the best League to Union convert of alltime in Jason Robonson won't so the game anay favours in trying to keep him.

He's a natural athlete who's game would cross over just as easily and they will throw huge money at him.

If the RFL would bring in rule where players brought through your system didn't count fully on the salary cap maybe clubs could manage to hold onto the likes of Eastmond but then it'd upset the have nots and they make the rules.

We could also bring in a 'Club England' type alteration to the cap, where top players being targeted by Union are paid extra from a central kitty. No-one should be under any illusions - it was only this that kept Cunningham and Radlinski in the game.

I know it's a choker, players appearing to exploit the game, but I don't see an alternative. If we lose Eastmond, we lose one of the best prospects RL has produced in quite a while. This won't be like Farrell or Robinson, who went when they were veterans. It won't be like Pryce or Walker, who still had it all to prove and surpised no-one that they didn't go on to make it. A fair comparison might be Harris, who was a very exciting league youngster when he left, and when he returned looked like an old man. That's what you really call exploiting the game - getting one big payday to defect, then getting another when you defect back (even though you're basically finished).

I think his inclusion in the squad ahead of the likes of Burrow, Pryce and Brough was a little sweetner to try and keep him in the game but that alone won't be enough when he could go to Union and be playing infront 80,000 fans on a regular basis even in friendlies against Argentina



Money talks at the end of the day and between Saints or another league club willing to make a bid and the RFL we need to do all we can to keep the lad in the game.

How depressing will it be if he leaves?

How do you work that one out?

Just on the Graham rumor this was posted on the Saints forum this morning.



The guy mentions it in another couple of post's where he's adamant it's going to happen.

I think this is a case of a pub/internet rumour getting out of hand. I'd love it to happen, but I just can't see it.

I'm sad to say but I'd have to agree that it very unlikely to happen, but the thought of it actually happening put's a big smile on my face.

Fingers crossed anyway.

When fans wanted us to sign a prop most assumed Coley would be leaving.

Sign a prop now and we'll have 6, not including Ben Davies who's going on loan.

IF we bring in a top class Prop 1 will have to go maybe 2. The first will obviously be Fielden, the second will be one of Prescott or O'Carroll most likely on loan, but in truth I can only see one of these lads coming through in the current cap climate.

we should be able to fit graham under the cap if something like this was offered

2010 - something around 60k
2011 - fielden's wages
2012 - fielden's wages

Can't see it happening TBH though, he should still be wearing a saints shirt next year

I'd agree jon that's the way I'd see it panning out were any new prop to come in.

I'm still hopeful that we may be able to offload Fielden to Celtic to link up with his bosom buddy Nobby, and it may be best for the development of O'Carrol were he to take a spell away from the club and it's pressures to see how he can develop on loan in a new environment.

i had a call of someone who does not come on here to get rumours. He told me that graham to wigan will be announced after saturdays game and fielden to celtic. just passing it on do not know if any truth in it

Is this genuine mate or have you just read the saints board ?