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| Quote ="P-J"Oh c'mon, don't be drawn in by Edwards spouting off to the media.
He's clearly got a job at Wigan from 2020, but fancies he can get something better elsewhere.'"
He clearly hasnt. If no contract was signed and is still not signed at this point, it is only natural for Edwards to be wondering where the hell he stands. Even Lenegan himself floated the idea that Edwards may not come a month or two ago. If what Edwards has said is true then the blame lies fully with Lenegan.
Even if what you say is true and Edwards fancies he can get something better elsewhere then it is still Lenegans fault for not getting Edwards to sign a contract when he had the chance.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"
I’d have more respect for him if he came out saying “We were going to sign it, we said it was signed to sell more season tickets but the contract still isn’t signed yet”.'"
Which could potentially result in a lawsuit for misrepresentation.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I think this is a separate issue to the performance against Warrington. We did improve and I too was upbeat. I still feel the same way and I still have faith in Adrian Lam to get us to the play offs.
I’m angry that club appear to have taken us for mugs about Edwards but he was implicit in that by doing the 30 minute interview on Sky where he deliberately gave us all the impression he’d signed. If it’s true and I don’t see how it won’t be, Edwards and the club share equal responsibility for it. The players are not at fault in this and I’ll back them to turn the season round, starting with a win on Sunday.'"
Hopefully it is for the players but as a fan it just seems to be one mess after another at the moment and having the fans on side and behind the club as a whole is huge.
This mess will already be having a knock on effect for 2020 in regards to rentention and recruitment. The notion that Lenagan has been shipping all our high earning players out as a way of funding a huge splurge for the start of the Edwards revolution looks dead. All the major players will be making plans for their signings right now but we won’t be able to do that, well at least not with the backing of our coach as we don’t know who it is.
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| What a total disgrace from the club.
Fair play to Shaun for clearing things up, describing signing for Wigan as an 'option' was actually doing Wigan a favour rather than the truth which would expose how unprofessional the club has become.
Edwards is dead right to use to Media as a sounding board, after all he needs to put it out there that's he'll be looking for a job in 2020 as he'll be unemployed. What world are Wigan Warriors living in? Parading a former playing legend, the highest profile coach we've had possibly ever around the pitch, splashing it across the media and then not even sorting out the contract?
Who else would said nothing if they'd be promised a job then heard nothing for 9 months? What a joke.
So what else does this tell us? Tells us Edwards hasn't been part of planning for 2020, isn't part of discussions for recruitment...the list goes on.
Also makes me wonder who is making the signings, and what actually is in place for 2020.
I can't think of a time when it's been this much of a mess.
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| It does seem very odd for Wigan to not have signed a contract with Edwards before announcing him as coach. You have to ask yourself, even if a contract was offered to be signed, would Edwards want it after being left in limbo for so long?
Seems all is not well with Wigan, WCC to nowhere (at the moment)
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| Does a verbal agreement not count legally?
Serious question.
I don't believe for one minute that there has been no communication for months between Edwards, Lenangan, Lam and Radlinski.
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| I’m not one to go overboard with things like this, and I’m usually willing for each party to have their say on matters before getting out the pitchfork...! But they really need to say something sharpish (like today).
If it comes to light that the club have gone back on the Edwards agreement - for whatever reason - god help ST sales next season. The current administration will be finished.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Does a verbal agreement not count legally?
Serious question.
I don't believe for one minute that there has been no communication for months between Edwards, Lenangan, Lam and Radlinski.'"
Don’t know about you, but if I was changing employer I’d want a piece of paper with my wage, T&Cs, etc all clearly laid out. Not some word of mouth “we’ll sort it later” agreement.
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| I spoke to a onetime leading prosecution judge in the UK about this last night ...he went freelance later as Mr loophole.
He said there is no contract and in the remarks about a verbal contract, he said it wouldn't anywhere near a court and the even if they tried the whole thing would collapse of the issue that IL deferred a written contract without clarity and raises the concerns that SE expected it as binding.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Does a verbal agreement not count legally?
Serious question.
I don't believe for one minute that there has been no communication for months between Edwards, Lenangan, Lam and Radlinski.'"
You could argue Torte law, but that is a minefield. Seems to me like either Lenegan doesn't want Edwards, or Edwards doesn't want Lenegan.
First time I have ever felt remotely sorry for Wigan fans.
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| I feel for the the fans only. They've been shat on from a high point.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Does a verbal agreement not count legally?
Serious question.
I don't believe for one minute that there has been no communication for months between Edwards, Lenangan, Lam and Radlinski.'"
To think a 'professional outfit' would rely solely on a verbal agreement would be laughable to say the least, and completely short-sighted and unprofessional. But that's where we seem to be. The details of the contract would have to be in writing and signed and agreed by all relevant parties, far too many ins and outs to agree solely on a handshake or verbal agreement.
I'm pleased Edwards has exposed IL's lack of professionalism to the media/public. Now it's out there he's been forced to play his hand or force a wicked backlash from the fans.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Edwards has done the right thing, the club simply have to comment now. Silence would be commercial suicide. I absolutely believe Shaun had the right intentions to come and coach the club, so if things don't work out the buck lies with IL.
You have to wonder though, with this episode now being played out in public - will the relationship have soured to the point it is already untenable, regardless of the contract situation?'"
That’s the feeling I’m getting as well. SE, I believe, does want to coach Wigan and has/had every intention of doing so. His subtle hints to IL in the media over the past few months make sense in the context of this latest media statement - he’s been pushing for a contract to be signed with Wigan not putting himself in the shop window for Wasps or England RU.
If this carries on I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he walked. I’d probably support him if he did, IL is making himself out to be untrustworthy and not honourable, which after all he’s actually done for the club since taking over from Uncle Mo, makes me feel let down. I expected and expect more from the club than this shambles.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"That’s the feeling I’m getting as well. SE, I believe, does want to coach Wigan and has/had every intention of doing so. His subtle hints to IL in the media over the past few months make sense in the context of this latest media statement - he’s been pushing for a contract to be signed with Wigan not putting himself in the shop window for Wasps or England RU.
If this carries on I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he walked. I’d probably support him if he did, IL is making himself out to be untrustworthy and not honourable, which after all he’s actually done for the club since taking over from Uncle Mo, makes me feel let down. I expected and expect more from the club than this shambles.'"
Good post. I think this sums up the general feeling with fans.
Hopefully IL can and will come out ASAP and address this situation. Letting it lie is only going to feed the anger and distrust from fans.
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CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.
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CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.
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| Interesting, trying to get hold of him and he's not responding?
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Quote ="100% Warrior"CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.'"
Trying to paint one of Wigan's favourite's as a problem is not going to work well. He has, reading between the lines, said "put a contract on the table". IL seems to have an agenda, and it doesn't look good from the outside looking in.
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Quote ="100% Warrior"CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.'"
Trying to paint one of Wigan's favourite's as a problem is not going to work well. He has, reading between the lines, said "put a contract on the table". IL seems to have an agenda, and it doesn't look good from the outside looking in.
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Quote ="100% Warrior"CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.'"
Seems like a stalling tactic to buy themselves a bit of time to figure how to spin it.
The club is really testing the loyalty of its fans at the moment.
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Quote ="100% Warrior"CLUB STATEMENT:
Wigan Warriors are aware of quotes from Shaun Edwards regarding his future contractual arrangements.
Following the conclusion of the Six Nations and Shaun’s comments, we have been seeking dialogue with Shaun directly since Sunday to clarify to Wigan his intentions.
Read more at https://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2019 ... MKta3Lp.99
Basically confirms the square root of jack all.'"
Seems like a stalling tactic to buy themselves a bit of time to figure how to spin it.
The club is really testing the loyalty of its fans at the moment.
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| Well the clubs statement tells us a lot. Just a one line sentence. Very thoughtful that.
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| 'clarify to Wigan!.....on HIS intensions'
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| A blank statement would’ve told the fans just as much. What an absolute waste of 40 seconds worth of typing that was for a club employee.
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| Quote ="SteveB46"Seems like a stalling tactic to buy themselves a bit of time to figure how to spin it.
The club is really testing the loyalty of its fans at the moment.'"
That's exactly what it is. Damage limitation, but they're adding more fuel to the flames of distrust with that waste of time statement.
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| Everything about the club seems negative at the moment
- this mess of a situation
- constantly losing our best players (whilst other teams tie them down to long contracts)
- poor recruitment and retainment
- cost cutting on squad, marketing etc
- lying about the Bateman situation
- promise of good rugby but not seeing any
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| Quote ="NSW"Everything about the club seems negative at the moment
- this mess of a situation
- constantly losing our best players (whilst other teams tie them down to long contracts)
- poor recruitment and retainment
- cost cutting on squad, marketing etc
- lying about the Bateman situation
- promise of good rugby but not seeing any
No wonder the fans seem to be staying away'"
Add to that the admin accounting error which put us over the salary cap yet again.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"That’s the feeling I’m getting as well. SE, I believe, does want to coach Wigan and has/had every intention of doing so. His subtle hints to IL in the media over the past few months make sense in the context of this latest media statement - he’s been pushing for a contract to be signed with Wigan not putting himself in the shop window for Wasps or England RU.
If this carries on I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he walked. I’d probably support him if he did, IL is making himself out to be untrustworthy and not honourable, which after all he’s actually done for the club since taking over from Uncle Mo, makes me feel let down. I expected and expect more from the club than this shambles.'"
You'd support Edwards walking away?
This is clearly a bid to get himself in the shop window when his stock is at its highest. No doubt he's got his eye on the England RU defensive coach job.
If he wanted to come to Wigan it's a quick phone call to Radlinski to confirm everything is still on track. Airing it in the media shows his true intentions.
Fair play to him, if nothing has been signed then he's well within his rights to hawk his services about, but I'll certainly think less of him and will not support him.
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