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| Quote ="Cruncher"
At the end of the day, I'm sure he wasn't that bothered. But it still bugs me to hear Wiganers - even a small bunch of them - dispaying the sort of childish excesses I normally associate with Wire fans.'"
So you hate childish name calling yet have a childish dig at us, nice one
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| Didn't seem anything more than pantomime from where I was sat - I'd forgotten he was on loan up there until we kicked off, and he'd have probably flown under the radar for the most part, had he not kept making errors. First time I can remember seeing him since the cringeworthy piece The Super League Show did on him. Seems a long time now since he was Saints poster boy at the start of the season.
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| Instead of booing him maybe they should be supporting their own side a bit more. Foster has done nothing wrong to alienate anyone on here. All clubs have an element of idiots that will boo anyone who has played for their closest enemy. Booing him once as he gets the first ball might be ok but this went on for 80 minutes. Now as Cruncher says this is behaviour he normally associates with Wire - But have we not been doing this for years Long for one comes to mind. Its not associated with anyone club but with all clubs have this.
But last night it went on too long and i have only seen Sam get that sort of abuse.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Historical revisionism in RL. Who'd have thought it?
At the end of the day, I'm sure he wasn't that bothered. But it still bugs me to hear Wiganers - even a small bunch of them - dispaying the sort of childish excesses I normally associate with Wire fans.'"
With a comment like that I think you're the one with the childish excess, have a think about it.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"With a comment like that I think you're the one with the childish excess, have a think about it.'"
I'm well aware that you trawl every single thread on this board so that you can immediately respond to even the slightest hint of disrespect towards your club, but with this one you're on a loser. In respect of crowd attitude, Wire have brought this level of mistrust on themselves. I've attended far too many matches over too many years, going back into the early 1970s and beyond, when the atmosphere generated by a certain section of your crowd far outweighed anything I've experienced anywhere else in RL in terms of aggression and hostility.
Things are not quite as bad these days, possibly because your team is finally getting regular success, but Wilderspool is the only RL ground I've ever known where a friend of mine was stabbed and another was bottled. Those kinds of memories don't go away quickly.
But just because you are easily bruised please don't ignore the main point of this thead - and that is the bad behaviour of certain WIGAN fans. I'm not just having a pop at your lot (though I'm sure it would help relations between Wire and everybody if you could get rid of that fat, drunken fool who always hangs around the HJ main doors after matches, looking to cause bother with the visiting team and staff when they're leaving).
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"With a comment like that I think you're the one with the childish excess, have a think about it.'"
I really think you ought to go look at the bile and vitriol laddled out on your own board before you have a pop at us.
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| I can see why he gets stick, he tries to be the Ronaldo of R.L minus the talent. He's worried way too much about his image and hair products to be taken seriously.
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| Nothing wrong with being a pantomime villain lets face it what ever was said/chanted about Foster is nothing compared to what Sam has taken in the past. The couple of major differences are that it doesn't bother Sam but it does to Foster, Sam is a good rugby player and last of all the muppets on Sky never built Sam up as he is the David Beckham of RL unlike Foster. If it puts some one off their game and they have a match to forget then all good sometimes it works against you and the player has a blinder, fortunately this time it worked.
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| Highlight of the game was Foster making the V.R square (accompanied by a rather smug nod of the head) to Child after his try. Only for the V.R to disallow it as his foot was 5 inch in touch.
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| good god.........deal with it Jamie, Longy managed it for years
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Highlight of the game was Foster making the V.R square (accompanied by a rather smug nod of the head) to Child after his try. Only for the V.R to disallow it as his foot was 5 inch in touch.'"
One problem I had with that was the touch-judge had already put his flag in the air to signal that Foster was in touch, yet Child still wanted to go to the screen to check. He either needs to have faith in his touch-judges or get rid of them completely.
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| Had no problem with them using the VR for Foster's 'try'. If you've got the facility, use it, and get the decisions right. Had Thaler used the VR in the CC semi, it might have been oh so different. Yes, I know we were poor, but that's not the point. Poor decisions are unforgiveable when you've got a ground full of cameras. Yes, the VR gets some wrong too, but the majority are correct.
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| Quote ="Coventry Bears"One problem I had with that was the touch-judge had already put his flag in the air to signal that Foster was in touch, yet Child still wanted to go to the screen to check. He either needs to have faith in his touch-judges or get rid of them completely.'"
The touch judge puts his flag up to show that his foot his in touch. he does not decide if its a try or not. Childs made the right call.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"good god.........deal with it Jamie, Longy managed it for years'"
I have to agree, Longy did cope with a lot of stick from Wigan fans. The difference between Long and Foster was that Longy was a very talented player and for me, Foster isn't! He's a good kicker but that's the end of it!
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I have to agree, Longy did cope with a lot of stick from Wigan fans. The difference between Long and Foster was that Longy was a very talented player and for me, Foster isn't! He's a good kicker but that's the end of it!'"
Certain element in the character there, Longy took stick in spades but we respected him as a great player; the b@$***d often used it as motivation to give it to us on the pitch.
Jamie Foster's a young lad with a great place kicking game but sadly little else; his inability to respond to the stick on the pitch shows that he's not even close to Sean Long's shadow.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"The touch judge puts his flag up to show that his foot his in touch. he does not decide if its a try or not. Childs made the right call.'"
So it's not a try then?
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| Quote ="Coventry Bears"icon_confused.gif So it's not a try then?'"
I must admit ... if the touchjudge signals there was a foot in touch, I see no reason for the ref to then go to the video. If it's in touch it isn't a try and that's all there is to it. Unless the touchjudge is unsure about what he saw, in which case he possibly shouldn't have flagged but should have had a quiet word instead.
An odd one for sure.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I must admit ... if the touchjudge signals there was a foot in touch, I see no reason for the ref to then go to the video. If it's in touch it isn't a try and that's all there is to it. Unless the touchjudge is unsure about what he saw, in which case he possibly shouldn't have flagged but should have had a quiet word instead.
An odd one for sure.'"
Not always possible for a tj to see if the ball is grounded before or after the player goes in touch.
Sometimes difficult to look and or see 2 places at the same time.
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| Nothing wron with him going to VR on that one. Better to be safe than cock sure only to end up with egg on your face when you balls it up. Oh helo Ben Thaler how are you doing?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Not always possible for a tj to see if the ball is grounded before or after the player goes in touch.
Sometimes difficult to look and or see 2 places at the same time.'"
Correct. Most will go to the VR in that instance as they can't overrule the TJ so once his flag is in the air, unless the ref is 100% certain he didn't ground the ball at all then he'll go to the screen. No problem with that. The technology is there.............use it.
I actually thought Child had a good game on Friday and let the game flow pretty well by his standards. I was expecting a whistle-a-thon and still being on the ground at midnight. He was talking utter balls when he said he saw the Westerman incident, but I'm glad he didn't brand the red straight away.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"Had no problem with them using the VR for Foster's 'try'. If you've got the facility, use it, and get the decisions right. Had Thaler used the VR in the CC semi, it might have been oh so different. Yes, I know we were poor, but that's not the point. Poor decisions are unforgiveable when you've got a ground full of cameras. Yes, the VR gets some wrong too, but the majority are correct.'"
Bit like Wembley last year I suppose .
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"Bit like Wembley last year I suppose .'"
Aww, diddums.
Another wimpy voice from self-pity city.
Any self-inflicted injuries you lot can blame on other teams this season?
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"Bit like Wembley last year I suppose .'"
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| Jamie Foster is an embarrasment, there is absolutely no need whatsoever to style your hair before a game of rugby league. Somebody need's to tell him that he isn't David Beckham.
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| Quote ="Wollyhood"Jamie Foster is an embarrasment, there is absolutely no need whatsoever to style your hair before a game of rugby league. Somebody need's to tell him that he isn't David Beckham.'"
What a ridiculous thing to say.
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