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| As many have said before this is vintage Nathan Brown talk from 2011 and 2010, I feel every player takes their fair share of dirty and high shots Sam may get more than other's as he's so elusive it frustrates defenders but then the way he runs and his size exaggerates the impact compared to high shorts Mossop may receive so they are more noticeable. I know Wane has a big personal attachment to Sam and I can understand he want's to protect his best asset no one want's to see scummy player's like Carl Ablett attempt to cause serious injuries.
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| Quote ="fleabag"I always feel for players like Burrows of Leeds. The little lads being thrown around for fun almost, by burly forwards.'"
Oh, boo hoo.
Good god, is this RL we're talking about?
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| Tomkins does get quite a bit of niggly play against him, that's why I don't blame him for kicking out etc, he should get dealt with when he reacts though.
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| Quote ="Darkheart"Tomkins does get quite a bit of niggly play against him, that's why I don't blame him for kicking out etc, he should get dealt with when he reacts though.'"
You're right - he should. But it amuses me that so many posters who are quick to complain about his attitude, his hitting out etc, are equally quick to dismiss the foul play against him, by saying he deserves it or "it's called RL", and so on.
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| What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????'"
That time he decked Phl Pentham was uttelry despicable, I agree. An elbow straight under the chin. And what about that kick he planted right in the middle of Richard Silverwood's face; the guy looked like had a stud-pattern tattoo afterwards. What about that time he chucked Ganson through the window of the video ref suite when he dared disallow a try?
It's a brave ref who penalises Wigan these days.
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"What about protection for the referees when Tomkins bags them for every decision that goes against him????'"
If that was to happen Wellens would be banned every week.
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| To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...'"
If you'd just tell him to stop impersonating a penguin I'd be happy.
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| Quote ="on_the_charge"To be honest Tomkins was a joke against Leeds and should have been sin binned.. I do agree Paul Wellens can be equally as bad at times...'"
At times? I know Sam has an attitude, but at least he has the quality to go with it. Wellens on the other hand, that guy just moans at the Ref because he moves slower than a slug in treacle.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Saints supporters have very short memories, they are convinced Rugby League began in 1996.
Sorry L
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Yes we do suffer with short memorys, it's a good job you are there to remind us.....
oh wait a minute,
I forgot.
Rogues
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Yes we do suffer with short memorys, it's a good job you are there to remind us.....
oh wait a minute,
I forgot.
Rogues
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Justice for the Rogues!
Free the Rogues one!
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Why not have a no tackle rule for Tomkins, that way he does not need to milk the penalty when he gets the ball, it's just automatic the second he is tackled. Will save everyone time.'"
Idiot
Quote ="FearTheVee"Oh, boo hoo.
Good god, is this RL we're talking about?'"
Yes rugby.... not boxing, kung fu, judo, karate, kick boxing or a footy match between Leeds and Chelsea circa 1971
Quote ="DANN"Firstly its the lack of proper punishments that is SW's gripe.
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Exactly. I paid something like £20 to watch England v Australia, somebody can remind me of the year.. possibly 2004? England kicked off and Adrian Morley cleaned out an aussie in 7 seconds. The match was over, the test series was over in 7 seconds. That England side could have won that series but becuase of an head high tackle it was ruined. Roll on several years later and its now acceptable to rip Sam Tomkins head off( and Ryan Halls- J Thurston- no penalty try, no red card, no punishment). Wane has made a good point, its illegal, dirty and it has no place in this sport.
Even yawnion is trying to clean its act up.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Why not have a no tackle rule for Tomkins, that way he does not need to milk the penalty when he gets the ball, it's just automatic the second he is tackled. Will save everyone time.'"
Will also save your players needing to find an excuse as to why they go nowhere near him. Again.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Will also save your players needing to find an excuse as to why they go nowhere near him. Again.'"
I was going to say. Don't Saints already have one of those.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I was going to say. Don't Saints already have one of those.'"
Just Paul Wellens
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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"At times? I know Sam has an attitude, but at least he has the quality to go with it. Wellens on the other hand, that guy just moans at the Ref because he moves slower than a slug in treacle.'"
"Put your arms down Paul, put your arms down, PUT YOUR ARMS DOWN PAUL!!"
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG""Put your arms down Paul, put your arms down, PUT YOUR ARMS DOWN PAUL!!"
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Luckily for us he decided to try and tackle with his arms down as well
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| Quote ="Conroy"Luckily for us he decided to try and tackle with his arms down as well'"
That's my 2nd favourite "picked up off the refs mic" quote after Josh Perry's "Yeh but he slapped me first!" on Good Friday.
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| It's the protection of Sam the refs need to be looking out for.It's the little bit of afters the players are putting in after the tackle is made.
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| Sam like many top players draw attention and Wane needs to consider this before spouting off. Wigan have had more than their fair share of hard men . You say Saints fans have short memory's. Well I remember one terry Newton (rip) dolling out some pretty tough justice to one mr. Long . And your mr. Hock,s no choir boy. We all want our players protected not just Wigan.
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| Quote ="Dark secret"Sam like many top players draw attention and Wane needs to consider this before spouting off. Wigan have had more than their fair share of hard men . You say Saints fans have short memory's. Well I remember one terry Newton (rip) dolling out some pretty tough justice to one mr. Long . And your mr. Hock,s no choir boy. We all want our players protected not just Wigan.'"
Two posts and two moans, great start...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Two posts and two moans, great start...
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2 posts with this avatar. Thousands over the years, would you like to comment on the post?
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| Quote ="Dark secret"icon_lol.gif 2 posts with this avatar. Thousands over the years, would you like to comment on the post?'"
No..
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"No..'"
Thought not
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