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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It's not a "problem", more a fact of life Rogues.
What's the point of going onto A Levels and (proper) University if it's not to be the best?
No point in "making up the numbers for the sake of it" imho.
I have to say that when I was at Winstanley, there were quite a few people there who I thought was a waste of taxpayers money for them to be there. God knows how the "lesser" colleges fared.'"
From experience.
JR cared about people.
WC cared about results.
Where would you send your child?
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| Quote ="Nick NJ"The nr Warrington is a myth. It's just warrington. Yet everyone in lowton knows it's actually Wigan.
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i have seen it used and you can understand why some people would rather it be near Warrington than actually just Warrington
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Oh yes, I know all about that. I'm from a place called Crawford Village originally, which is between Upholland and Rainford. Skem address, Wigan post code, St Helens phone number.'"
We used to put
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Not putting Skelmersdale on our address thank you very much.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"From experience.
JR cared about people.
WC cared about results.
Where would you send your child?'"
Totally agree Rogues, and this is from present day, not experience.
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"the operative word being WAS.
[uRose bridge is better these days i believe[/u....and the OP would find Ince ideal...but avoid the belle green lane estates'"
Not according to the league tables I linked to on page 1 of this thread.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Not according to the league tables I linked to on page 1 of this thread.'"
Go on Hawkley, you bastion of learning, you beacon of knowledge!
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| Quote ="Pemps"Not according to the league tables I linked to on page 1 of this thread.'"
that league tables utter bolox imo, but where are you getting it in your head that RBHS isnt one of the best>
its 2nd in the CVA ? list(behind Hawkley), but near the bottom in the published list..no.i dont understand it either.
what it doesnt take into account is that RBHS is a centre of excellence for Science, and has an exceptional anti bullying policy.
so whats best?...you tell me
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"From experience.
JR cared about people.
WC cared about results.
Where would you send your child?'"
WC then.
What exactly do you want out of a 6th form college? What's the point of going on to do A Levels if you are not striving for results?
Not that I agree with the fact that WC don't "care", If I wanted somewhere that "cared about people" I would send my child to the Samaritans.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"WC then.
What exactly do you want out of a 6th form college? What's the point of going on to do A Levels if you are not striving for results?
Not that I agree with the fact that WC don't "care", If I wanted somewhere that "cared about people" I would send my child to the Samaritans.'"
Totally agree with that, Winstanley was the only place I wanted to go because it was the best for results, albeit this was 12 year ago. I never once got the impression that they didn't care for their students either, but there was a push to succeed. WC always had the best totty too
Each to their own I suppose
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Well it's between there and John Rigby as Wigan have moved all their A-levels to Leigh. Ten years ago Wigan was miles ahead of Winstanley in Geography, Geology and Environmental studies at least.
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There's no hope for me then, as I was doing all those A-Levels at Winstanley in 2000.
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Yes, it certainly was when I was there and to make matters worse on this thread, I'm married to a Saints fan and live in Lowton which now has an identity crisis whether it is Wigan at all.
Where did it all go wrong?
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"
A certain Stuart Cummings was our games teacher, and really not the t055er people seem to make him out to be.'"
Wow I never actually knew that!
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I thought Deanery was Wigans premier school?'"
It was in my day.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"A certain Stuart Cummings was our games teacher, and really not the t055er people seem to make him out to be.'"
One of our PE teachers at Hawkley Hall was Jeff Clare. His favourite story was how he scored the first ever 4-point try. He was a nice bloke who once got David Lyon to come down and take us for a rugby lesson.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"One of our PE teachers at Hawkley Hall was Jeff Clare. His favourite story was how he scored the first ever 4-point try. He was a nice bloke who once got David Lyon to come down and take us for a rugby lesson.'"
My mate never shuts up about Jeff Clare.
He was a Hawkley pupil to and every time you mention PE he will discuss (at length) what a superb teacher Jeff Clare was.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"My mate never shuts up about Jeff Clare.
He was a Hawkley pupil to and every time you mention PE he will discuss (at length) what a superb teacher Jeff Clare was.'"
We were lucky in that we had two great teachers who knew what they were doing but were a great laugh at the same time. In my last year we had a reet bell who spent the entire hour perving on lasses while we were sent off towards Three Sisters on cross-country jaunts.
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| Our rugby teacher was Mike Hancock, apparently an ex semi pro with Swinton, very good teacher but very regimental, he was always making you do press ups or star jumps or sit ups if you spoke when he did or didn't do something right. The worst was in winter doing rugby on a muddy pitch "20 forward rolls" he'd shout and your head would be filthy and cold with all the mud and water on it.
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| My most memorable PE teacher at Rose Bridge was and old Aussie fella called Mr Sonerson. Apparently he was one a full time NRL player back in the day.
My year was full of wendy ball wannabes and each lesson he would ask for the vote on what game we would play. Football would pull in about 20 votes and RL would pull in 2 (from me and my mate). After Mr Sonerson had counted the votes and witnessed the overwhelming footballing majority, he would always say "right you little poofta's, Rugger it is!"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"We were lucky in that we had two great teachers who knew what they were doing but were a great laugh at the same time. In my last year we had a reet bell who spent the entire hour perving on lasses while we were sent off towards Three Sisters on cross-country jaunts.'"
What age are you?.
You tell a similar story to my Mate. Might be the same year.
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| Winstanley got best A level results last year in the whole country therefore regardless of people wanting their kids (most are 18 btw so not kids) mollycoddled. Your there to learn not be looked after. Personally, the tutors at Winstanley were great for me
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"Winstanley got best A level results last year in the whole country therefore regardless of people wanting their kids (most are 18 btw so not kids) mollycoddled. =#FF0000Your there to learn not be looked after. Personally, the tutors at Winstanley were great for me'"
I hope you didn't study English.
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"Winstanley got best A level results last year in the whole country therefore regardless of people wanting their kids (most are 18 btw so not kids) mollycoddled. Your there to learn not be looked after. Personally, the tutors at Winstanley were great for me'"
You go there to learn but the tutors job is to teach. They shouldn't give up on those who struggle, which in my experience some have done.
There are some excellent tutors at Winstanley. My history teacher was great and helped me get from a predicted E grade to a grade B. I wouldn't have done that without his help.
However people's opinions are bound to be shaped by their experiences, and after walking into a lesson hearing my tutor bitching and gossiping about a friend of mine and making remarks about a family member I was put off. The same thing happened in a different subject a few days later and then said person found her own tutor had been doing the same when she was absent.
I was there to learn rather than to stand up for a friend from rumour and gossip from those who were supposed to be there to teach.
It put me off Winstanley for good.
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| Completely O/T again, but isn't there a teacher at Abraham Guest at the minute who plays for Keighly?
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"
A certain Stuart Cummings was our games teacher, and really not the t055er people seem to make him out to be.'"
Very true - but not as good at teaching the basics of rugby than (God forgive me for saying this) the former Lancashire Rugby Union captain and coach, maths teacher and all round good egg Des Seabrook.
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| Quote ="radioactiveman"Very true - but not as good at teaching the basics of rugby than (God forgive me for saying this) the former Lancashire Rugby Union captain and coach, maths teacher and all round good egg Des Seabrook.'"
He was a bit before my time, I'd say. He was still teaching maths in my first couple of years at UHS, but sadly he suffered a couple of heart attacks and eventually retired.
Mr Cummings was held back a bit, I think. Head of games was a Welsh bloke called Mr Griffiths and we seemed to have some link or other with Orrell Rugby Union, so it was decreed that we had to play union, and Griffiths ran the school team. We were pretty crap and I don't actually recall Griffiths ever really teaching us anything and as a games teacher I just didn't get along with him. That said, he was our head of year in our final two years, and I found him to be great in role. That said, I always was more suited to 'academic' lessons than sport!
Apparently after I left the school, Griffiths either left, or was sidelined, Cummings took over as head of games and the school switched to league.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"You go there to learn but the tutors job is to teach. They shouldn't give up on those who struggle, which in my experience some have done.
There are some excellent tutors at Winstanley. My history teacher was great and helped me get from a predicted E grade to a grade B. I wouldn't have done that without his help.
However people's opinions are bound to be shaped by their experiences, and after walking into a lesson hearing my tutor bitching and gossiping about a friend of mine and making remarks about a family member I was put off. The same thing happened in a different subject a few days later and then said person found her own tutor had been doing the same when she was absent.
I was there to learn rather than to stand up for a friend from rumour and gossip from those who were supposed to be there to teach.
It put me off Winstanley for good.'"
different strokes for different folks i suppose but in my experience winstanely is a top top place of education and thoroughly deserves its place in the top few colleges in the country. my 'tutors' were as good as they come.
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