Would you say England are credible opposition? He was excellent that night.

You didn't see Cas v Wigan then when he came on as sub and ran the show. Mind you Wires will probably think that average players can do that anyway as were not in the same class as Wire are we.

is the dream team selected on international / made up novelty fixtures?

I thought we were talking about super league performances.

to answer your question, yes he played well in that friendly game.

No, no, no - he came on and all he did was sidestep and not pass the ball.

Don't tell anyone he's 3rd in assists despite playing in a relatively poor team, they won't believe you - he only plays for himself.

What you on about, check the guys i listed, 4 from your side

no i didnt see that game i was in Cuba... so i will take your word for it.

[uCas 22 wigan 22 (from Sportinglife)[/u

Dixon again faltered with the conversion attempt but the Tigers struck again with 15 minutes remaining when Aspinwall seized on a clever kick from Chase.

Dixon converted to cut Wigan's lead to eight points and with seven minutes remaining the Tigers struck their fourth try, through Arundel again after more good work from Chase.

Dixon failed to convert and Chase's fine pass sent Mathers diving over in the left corner in the closing stages - only for Dixon to fail to convert from the touchline.

[uHull 18 Castleford 20 (from Sportinglife)[/u

Hull, who were unable to control stand-off Rangi Chase all night

[uCastleford 34 Catalans 24(from Sportinglife)[/u

for Rangi Chase to send Craig Huby plunging in for a try.

Five minutes later, the Tigers went back in front with a clever solo effort by New Zealander Chase, who dummied his way through from 20 yards out for a try.

I'm assuming you don't watch much rugby that doesn't involve Wire.

danny orr and denis moran used to get headlines written about them like that.

Its called big fish small pond syndrome (i'm belting out these syndromes today)

Fire enough bullets you'll hit the target.

Pity there isn't a 'taking the wrong option' stat, he'd head that

Briers has been good for Wire but I don't think he'd be included in the Dream Team. I think it's a case of Wire improving and helping Briers play better rather than him raising his game and helping Wire. I think if you put a few other halfbacks in the Wire squad they'd be performing at a similar level to Briers.

Chase is definitely more of an individual but even his critics surely have to admit that he's done an awful lot for the Cas team and without him they'd be much worse off. He's pretty much the only seriously dangerous player in the side. No one really knows how he'd cope at one of the top clubs but I don't think it's right to dismiss him as a 'headless chicken'. He's involved in almost everything good that Cas do.

Scott Dureau would be the obvious choice and then I think possibly Brough, although his injury might work against him. If Brett Finch keeps up his good form then he might be in with a chance and then there's Lomax too.

i don't watch ANY rugby when im in Cuba on holiday (as stated above)... but other than that i watch it every week... so your assumption is wrong.

thanks for your concern though mr st wigan.

So when Wire were terrible (much of the last 10 years) did that make Briers any less of a player?

See Lee Briers the fat years

It is impressive to be well not at your best and be top.

Looking forward to seeing Wire peak in the next few months.

I thought the Mods were trying to stop this kind of ridiculous baiting?

SamTomkins
Matt King
Kirk Yeaman( Welham unlucky but Yeamans allround game gets him in)
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Rangi Chase
Scott Dureau
Gareth Carvell
James Roby
Lee Mossop
Ryan Hoffman
Ben Westwood
Sean O'Loughlin

Brett Hodgeson (Picked over Tomkins due to stronger defence)
Monaghan
Carmont
Yeaman
Briscoe
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Roby
O'Meley
Westwood
Hoffman
Fitzgibbon

Honourable mentions to S.Tomkins and Puletua.

What about the Exiles game? He tore apart England RL and bossed it in a good team. He is a class player.

Which bit is baiting?

You being top not at your best or us not peaking yet?

Sam Tomkins has 14 missed tackles.

Brett Hodgson has 29 missed tackles.

That is indeed superior defence.

I knew that someone would moan.

I rate both very very highly as players. Cba to go into all the bickering about wigan/wire players that seems to infest this board.

Look, you can choose Hodgson over Tomkins if you want. Fine. He's a quality player who's playing well in a quality side.

But to choose him cos of his defense? That's what I was querying.

Tomkins
Monaghan
Carmont
Yeaman
McGilvary
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Westwood
Hoffman
O'Loughlin

1. Sam Tomkins (Wigan)
2. Joel Monaghan (Wire)
3. Kirk Yeaman (Hull)
4. George Carmont (Wigan)
5. Pat Richards (Wigan)
6. Rangi Chase (Castleford)
7. Scott Dureau (Catalans)
8. Lee Mossop (Wigan)
9. James Roby (St.Helens)
10. Adrian Morley (Wire)
11. Ben Westwood (Wire)
12. Ryan Hoffman (Wigan)
13. Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan)

Tom Briscoe, Brett Hodgson and Steve Menzies all unlucky to get into my team

6 wiganers, 3 wire, 1 hull, 1 cas, 1 catalan, 1 saints

Sam Tomkins
J Monaghan
Yeaman
Carmont
Briscoe
Chase
Dureau
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Westwood
Hoffman
Lockers

Going off this season so far.