The NZ backs are FAR superior to Englands IMO.

Whilst Sam is the best HB out there Marshall & Fein is the better pairing. Two quality players vs Englands one and a pub player is no contest.

NZ have one quality centre & we have none

NZ have a game winner on the wing were we have solid but dependable players.

The FB spot is a situation of potential vs current proven ability.

Sam Tomkins is World Class, give him someone better than brown and he'll be great. Goulding out of his depth.

Roby isn't organising enough from dummy half, and we've had too many errors.

Need an 'old' head in at least 1 more of the pivot positions. Widdop Brown Tomkins Roby Locky doesnt do it for me.

In what way is Goulding out of his deapth? He has done nothing wrong.

Atkins and Shentons position in defence is poor and creating space for NZ outwide.

Crabtree should be playing, not Griffin, simple.

thought o'loughlin was brilliant in that first half, I would love to see the tackle count, he seemed to be in every tackle.

We have definately missed a trick flying out deacon when morley got injured!

Your sig and avi loses any credibility you may have had



Lovin the "oooops"

I can only conclude that you are trolling. Goulding has not been out of his depth at all. He has saved at least 2 tries when there was a lack of numbers on his side. He has also made plenty of yards from dummy half, as he does at Wigan. He couldnt have done any more so far.

I think Tomkins and O'Loughlin have been very good. O'Loughlin has to play 6 the next match as Brown is just a waste of a player.

This is awful





You know its crap when the only positive thing we can take out of that half is a break by O'Loughlin.







Roby

This referee is terrible. He's made so many e calls!

Very poor stuff so far. Terrible offloads, far too many unnecessary handling errors and a real lack of creativity from the hb's. So far only Ellis looks able to penetrate their line. They just don't look like a 'team' and more like 17 SL players who knew they were beaten before ko. Let's hope for better in the 2nd half, although I can see NZ running away with it to nil.

and thats y widdop will never replace slater at the storm been very poor for the last 2 games

Horrible performance, we used to look like a team who are not quite as good as Aus and NZ, no we are just miles behind. The defending at times is shocking and we are clueless in attack.

Game on!!!.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant England!!!! Why havn't you been doing this all game?

what a team try!

England need to keep going wide.

I'm glad Robinson was moved to 7. Sam needs to play at 6 if he's in the halves, not first receiver.

Awesome kick! TRY maybe!

Thought that was a try myself, now it's game over.

I would like to congratulate the ref on ruining Englands chances. Ok we have been dominated but we were still in the game and in my opinion we have been stitched up. The first try was a mile forward. Several other passes in their own half have been way forward and missed.

The tap restart when the kiwis knock it out basic ref error. Brown try, without a doubt, slow it down and it looks bad at full game pace try.

I will never know why we try to play ourselves though when we are a better side when we let the ball go.

And the hooped shirts.... and no Ray French.... Be thankful for small mercies...

Fully agree. Such a waste playing there.

Got no one that can kick either...





Typical England

Well the highlight of the game for me was Robinson getting chased by Hohia, thought id left chubby browns UFO dvd in or the benny hill music to come on. Cant wait get hommered next week.