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| Im just disappointed that once again we have lost at home. Im not taking any credit away from KR, but if you want to be near the top of the table come the end of the season, then you have to aim to win nearly all of your home games.
Losing to KR, Cas, Wakefield and Huddersfield at home is not good enough.
Fair play to KR though, there top of the table for a reason.
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"the hooter is just both teams time keepers timing to tell the fans the ref has his own watch and his time is what count i no this from sitting with 2 time keepers once but silverwood was poor at times but the weather was awful for rugby and the teams did well to make a very very good game of it well done wigan no trouble aswel until a little chav thru a stone at our coach on the way out of wigan but overall a very good night thank you'" Sorry, that is nonsense. If the ref uses his watch, why have time-keepers?
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| Quote ="Dave T"Sorry, that is nonsense. If the ref uses his watch, why have time-keepers?'"
so if he does try ripping teams off by adding allot of extra time it is noticed.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"Im sorry to moan about the ref but, Lets be honest who has seen a more one sided refing performance than that ever. It was 14 v 13 all night...we never really stood a chance'" Shock horror, the ref was biased
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"so if he does try ripping teams off by adding allot of extra time it is noticed.'"
The ref is not the person who decides time is up and has not been for long time, its the timekeepers. The rules about what happens when the hooter goes off have changed over recent seasons but he screwed up tonight.
The hooter went off when the players were on the deck and the ball was dead. He screwed up allowing a PTB after that and I can't see any reason to argue otherwise.
This opinion has nothing to do with the result but Silverwood should be demoted for that decision and no excuses should be made.
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| Quote ="DaveO"The ref is not the person who decides time is up and has not been for long time, its the timekeepers. The rules about what happens when the hooter goes off have changed over recent seasons but he screwed up tonight.
The hooter went off when the players were on the deck and the ball was dead. He screwed up allowing a PTB after that and I can't see any reason to argue otherwise.
This opinion has nothing to do with the result but Silverwood should be demoted for that decision and no excuses should be made.
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you do realise that refs never get dropped look at ben thaler the worst ref ever id love the rfl to drop some refs and let some new ones come thru to give competition for them to ref fair and equal every game
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| Quote ="diehardofowld"Shock horror, the ref was biased
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you noticed it too flower?
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"you do realise that refs never get dropped look at ben thaler the worst ref ever id love the rfl to drop some refs and let some new ones come thru to give competition for them to ref fair and equal every game'"
A ref was dropped to NL1 last season. Can't remember which one but tonight's error was worthy of similar action IMO.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"That said, we played well. Our forwards ran hard and hit very hard - some of those tackles made the East Stand shudder, I've not seen some many hits like that for years - and you've got to expect some mistakes in pouring rain. For me, our passing from the PTB was too slow and we couldn't cope with KR running up fast in defence.'"
Indeed. I bet Stanley Gene will feel it in the morning. He got boomed about 5 times.
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| Quote ="Warrior*Girl"Ref was disgusting my mum is a warrington fan and she was there tonight with me and she said the ref was all over hull kr. Shambles !!!
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Yes, but as we all know, Wire fans know bugger all about anything so your mum was clearly wrong.
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| I don't know why dobbo's try was disallowed last night as we where at the other end of the ground and i haven't seen the replay yet, but surely it was no worse than burrows try last night against cas which was allowed.Having said that a good game given the conditions both teams had to play in, and yes i did question the try before half time as some near me thought we had kept the ball alive after hooter started sounding.Good defensive display by two inform teams, see you at wembley....hopefully..
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| Dobbo didn't score. He didn't complain, In Goal judge gave it no try straight away also. Was sat with the biggest anti-wiganer you could know and he called no try immediately.
Dropped ball lost us the game (Ridell from acting half back WTF?! You're a hooker!!!) but the blunder by Silverwood wasn't just a "tough call" or a controversial decision, it was downright wrong and the try was illegal according to the rules of the game.
We had better be making a formal complaint - god knows how many times Wigan have to explain themselves in front of the RFL; it should be their turn.
That was a Millenium Magic-esque decision and he should be demoted for it.
Interesting to see skysport had it on their text pages last night and have as far as I can see removed the part about the blunder this morning. How dare they. Censorship at it's worst!
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| We lost that game ourselves regardless of the arrogant, ignorant or stupid decision that Silverwood made.
We were not clinical enough to capitalize on field position when attacking their line and we're not smart/composed enough in the later stages of the game to keep hold of the ball, make good yards and kick down field to control the game.
It wasn't Silverwood who cost us the game, it was stupid errors, poor finishing and very good defence by Hull KR.
They deserved it more.
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| Quote ="DaveO"The ref is not the person who decides time is up and has not been for long time, its the timekeepers. The rules about what happens when the hooter goes off have changed over recent seasons but he screwed up tonight.
The hooter went off when the players were on the deck and the ball was dead. He screwed up allowing a PTB after that and I can't see any reason to argue otherwise.
This opinion has nothing to do with the result but Silverwood should be demoted for that decision and no excuses should be made.
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That's correct.
However, why didn't the touchjudge just stand his ground and inform the referee that time was up before the ball was played?
Mini reminded me on the way home that a similar instance occurred at the HKR v Saints game at the start of last season. Saints scored in the last seconds but it was disallowed because the hooter had gone before the ball was played.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That's correct.
However, why didn't the touchjudge just stand his ground and inform the referee that time was up before the ball was played?
Mini reminded me on the way home that a similar instance occurred at the HKR v Saints game at the start of last season. Saints scored in the last seconds but it was disallowed because the hooter had gone before the ball was played.'"
That wouldn't have made any difference.
The issue is that our two best players weren't even in the squad.
Another issue is that Camel Face is more interested in getting paid his cabbage than he is in winning RL games.
Tell ya what though mate, that Riddell is just awesome!!!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
Mini reminded me on the way home that a similar instance occurred at the HKR v Saints game at the start of last season. Saints scored in the last seconds but =blueit was disallowed because the hooter had gone before the ball was played.'"
Nowt to do with the hooter
The ref was called back by the lineo for an infringement.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"That wouldn't have made any difference.
The issue is that our two best players weren't even in the squad.
Another issue is that Camel Face is more interested in getting paid his cabbage than he is in winning RL games.
Tell ya what though mate, that Riddell is just awesome!!!
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Which two are are best players.
Hansen and O'Carroll?
And are the "best two" better than, O'Loughlin, Hock, Tommy, Pat etc?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That's correct.
However, why didn't the touchjudge just stand his ground and inform the referee that time was up before the ball was played?
Mini reminded me on the way home that a similar instance occurred at the HKR v Saints game at the start of last season. Saints scored in the last seconds but it was disallowed because the hooter had gone before the ball was played.'"
In the game you refer to the try was disallowed because a Saints player passed the ball from the ground after the tackle had been made.
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| Quote ="Mulder"In the game you refer to the try was disallowed because a Saints player passed the ball from the ground after the tackle had been made.'"
Cheers.
We remembered it happening but couldn't remember the exact detail.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"That's correct.
However, why didn't the touchjudge just stand his ground and inform the referee that time was up before the ball was played?
Mini reminded me on the way home that a similar instance occurred at the HKR v Saints game at the start of last season. Saints scored in the last seconds but it was disallowed because the hooter had gone before the ball was played.'" That is incorrect it was chalked off due to Saints passing off the floor in back play.
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| I was at the game last night and whilst Dobsons try was controversial, I thought the ref was abysmal for both sides. hils acknowledging that somedecisons went our way,your lot were offside all the time, not standing square ( I counted 3 occasions when the Wigan player interfered with the Rovers player playing the ball and he gave a knock on with your feed). cheap shots on Dobson also went unpunished, so before people start blaming Silverwood, take off the rose tinted specs and look at the game from both teams point of view.There were over 8 minutes injury time played at the end, we timed it, and withthis theory, perhaps Dobsons try was allowed as it was scored during 1st half injury time.
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Your missing my point. It should have been 6-0 to KR'"
Dobo never grounded the ball he was held up in goal, as seen from five rows from the front of the south stand directly in line with the incident .
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| Quote ="NWO"Dobo never grounded the ball he was held up in goal, as seen from five rows from the front of the south stand directly in line with the incident .'"
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| Quote ="Elle Coco"Dropped ball lost us the game (Ridell from acting half back WTF?! You're a hooker!!!) but the blunder by Silverwood wasn't just a "tough call" or a controversial decision, it was downright wrong and the try was illegal according to the rules of the game.'"
This is what people are forgetting, we shouldn't be having the debate about whether the try cost us the game because in no circumstances should the try have been awarded.
Quote ="Elle Coco"We had better be making a formal complaint - god knows how many times Wigan have to explain themselves in front of the RFL; it should be their turn.'"
Its certainly a good point, the club never get the rub of the green and in relation to last night, we should be pursuing this as far as is possible. Anderson at Saints had a whinge and didnt see an official again. Morgan moans and KR gets last nights call. The club need to make as big a stink of possible about this.
Quote ="Elle Coco"That was a Millenium Magic-esque decision and he should be demoted for it. '"
He should. The fella shouldnt see SL again this year. The RFL should have sacked him when they had the chance.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Cheers.
We remembered it happening but couldn't remember the exact detail.'"
I can. Every second!
My lad was commentating on the Rovers dvd and I had his last 30 seconds hysterics as my ring-tone for a while!
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