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| You only need to look on social media to see Wigan players out in Manchester City Centre and then on the VT people were saying Saints players had been out in Liverpool (weird that coz I thought they were perfect), Leeds players out and about and Blake Austin went and celebrated Liverpool’s title win down at Anfield with thousands of others. So basically players from all clubs look to be just cracking on with pretty normal life’s but it’s not normal times and they’ve not got normal jobs. If the players as a collective group want the sport to survive and they want to carry on earning a living through it then even more sacrifices could need to be made than they’ve already had to.
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| Surely everyone playing at the same stadium opens the door for the virus to run through all clubs?
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| I am more inclined to think that the spike at Hull FC has more to do with the players like those of Celtic doing something outside the lockdown regulations rather than playing in the game against Salford.
The question is "where they not tested prior to the game and if not, why not"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Blake Austin went and celebrated Liverpool’s title win down at Anfield with thousands of others. '"
Just when you thought you couldn't dislike him any more
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| Why aren't the players living in a hotel somewhere isolated from the general public in a bio secure bubble?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"You only need to look on social media to see Wigan players out in Manchester City Centre and then on the VT people were saying Saints players had been out in Liverpool (weird that coz I thought they were perfect), Leeds players out and about and Blake Austin went and celebrated Liverpool’s title win down at Anfield with thousands of others. So basically players from all clubs look to be just cracking on with pretty normal life’s but it’s not normal times and they’ve not got normal jobs. If the players as a collective group want the sport to survive and they want to carry on earning a living through it then even more sacrifices could need to be made than they’ve already had to.'"
I agree. If I remember correctly, the NRL got going early again because all the players and their families retreated into isolated training camp situations. That was a superbly professional response to the crisis, and it paid off, leaving their season with only a minor disruption.
Is it really beyond us to do something like that over here?
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| Quote ="post"Why aren't the players living in a hotel somewhere isolated from the general public in a bio secure bubble?'"
Simple, the clubs can’t afford it, the RFL can’t afford it
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| Been issues recently in the NRL too with players breaking rules
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| Quote ="post"Why aren't the players living in a hotel somewhere isolated from the general public in a bio secure bubble?'"
The game can’t afford it according to Matthew Shaw from the league express and also they thought it was a big ask of the players after they’d taken pay cuts, to then be asked to stay away from families.
If we can’t do that I’d at least be asking that the players try and keep their interaction with the general public to a minimum. I see our lads on social media posting mixtures of them out socialising and they’re not breaking any government rules by the looks of things but it’s not going to help.
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| The game can't afford it. Wow.
Can the game afford to see the plug on the 2020 season pulled with the fixtures only a third complete?
Because that could be the outcome if there are any more outbreaks like this, and there will be if the players, training staff etc. aren't put into some form of semi-isolation.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The game can't afford it. Wow.
Can the game afford to see the plug on the 2020 season pulled with the fixtures only a third complete?
Because that could be the outcome if there are any more outbreaks like this, and there will be if the players, training staff etc. aren't put into some form of semi-isolation.'"
I read earlier that the Hull and Salford players used the main changing rooms at Headingley and they were then cleaned during our game and then used by the Leeds and Saints players. It’s pretty staggering that IMO and if we can’t even get each team an area to change in that is exclusive to them, what hope have we got of them sorting out hotels and the like. Just get some cabins on the car park or set up an area under the stand FFS! It’s beyond belief. Unless things change with the rules and the attitudes of players I can’t see us completing the season.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I read earlier that the Hull and Salford players used the main changing rooms at Headingley and they were then cleaned during our game and then used by the Leeds and Saints players. It’s pretty staggering that IMO and if we can’t even get each team an area to change in that is exclusive to them, what hope have we got of them sorting out hotels and the like. Just get some cabins on the car park or set up an area under the stand FFS! It’s beyond belief. Unless things change with the rules and the attitudes of players I can’t see us completing the season.'"
It may be even worse than losing this one season. I know it's a lot to ask of players who've already taken pay-cuts, but people need to get real. Generally speaking, our lads earn very well, But I wonder where a lot of them would be (or maybe WILL be) without professional RL? I honestly believe this is that serious.
All day today I've spoken to people who've reported seeing SL players out on the lash in the evenings, often exercising no social distancing. This really has to stop. It's only for four months or so, but it's could be a truly vital four months in our game.
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| There isn’t any more room for outbreaks such as this,the players need to look at themselves and ask are they up for the sacrifice of no social life?
The sport did itself no favours with not having any room to allow for this to happen,it should in my opinion gone on to mid December,yes I know about the contracts etc but these are strange times so surely a little common sense could have been applied for another month or so?
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| Quote ="hengirl"There isn’t any more room for outbreaks such as this,the players need to look at themselves and ask are they up for the sacrifice of no social life?
The sport did itself no favours with not having any room to allow for this to happen,it should in my opinion gone on to mid December,yes I know about the contracts etc but these are strange times so surely a little common sense could have been applied for another month or so?'"
It's the World Cup that is partly causing the issue. They don't want any knock on effects to next season as the World Cup can't be delayed
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| Quote ="Grimmy"It's the World Cup that is partly causing the issue. They don't want any knock on effects to next season as the World Cup can't be delayed'"
At this point who's to say the World Cup will even be played?
Its not to far a stretch that crowds might not be allowed back Inso they going to run it behind closed doors?
Like I say these are uncharted times and to dig your heels and block off a period of time with no plan b is utter madness.
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| As someone who is an amateur coach and having had to jump through so many hoops to get my lads back training (with great success I may add!), I’m actually hoping this could turn out to be a positive for the game in the current climate.
It obviously not ideal in the short term however looking at the bigger picture if at the end of their quarantine period all the Salford lads return negative results then it highlights that actually playing the game is low risk in relation to transmitting the virus.
I’ve a suspicion as to why the Hull Club are keeping things under wraps on who has tested positive as i think it may be a group of lads and their families that are naturally drawn to each other off the pitch. Just a suspicion though nothing I’ve heard.
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| All the Premiership and Championship clubs played all their home games on their own grounds without any problems.
Our game is only playing fixtures on just three grounds with more than two teams using the same dressing rooms and already we are having problems.
Why are we not playing games like football?
Because Sky Sports do not want to move their equipment from ground to ground and double headers suit their own agenda where costs are incurred.
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| Quote ="hengirl"At this point who's to say the World Cup will even be played?
Its not to far a stretch that crowds might not be allowed back Inso they going to run it behind closed doors?
Like I say these are uncharted times and to dig your heels and block off a period of time with no plan b is utter madness.'"
There's more chance of having crowds at the world cup than there is in mid-December as you're proposing. I think realistically plan B is fixture re-scheduling as we saw this weekend, plan C midweek fixtures if we have a backlog, plan D probably cancelling the Challenge Cup to free up some weekends, and plan E would be finishing this season early. I agree with that approach rather than prolonging the season further than we already have, and causing impacts onto next season by doing so. If we have to postpone so many games that we needed to go into mid December then I'd also argue it's not safe to carry on.
This season is a mess but right now I'd say there's some hope we can have a normal 21' fixture list. We definitely won't have that if the '20 season runs into mid December. Not to mention the fact you then start getting into frozen pitch issues.
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| It's not 6 players and staff anymore t's bloody 12,what the hell is going on in Hull
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| Quote ="warrior1872"It's not 6 players and staff anymore t's bloody 12,what the hell is going on in Hull'"
That was obviously going to happen once a few of them had it, especially the physio. Hope they all make a quick recovery, if any have symptoms.
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| Wonder what it’ll mean for Hull going forward? If they keep testing these guys and it keeps saying they have it, how are they going to get any games in? I recall a Juventus footballer testing positive for it time and again over about 6-8 weeks.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Wonder what it’ll mean for Hull going forward? If they keep testing these guys and it keeps saying they have it, how are they going to get any games in? I recall a Juventus footballer testing positive for it time and again over about 6-8 weeks.'"
God only knows Nicky, Kingston upon Hull was doing relatively well especially in Northern England regarding the figures against this virus.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"God only knows Nicky, Kingston upon Hull was doing relatively well especially in Northern England regarding the figures against this virus.'"
Worrying stuff. The game may have to come up with something to help the situation. There’s obviously a lot of Toronto players with time on their hands but Hull aren’t going to want to pay them just as a token gesture of fulfilling fixtures. Hopefully it gets no worse and I guess that leaves around 20 players Covid free, with the 9 players to drip back in as and when. I know we have a really deep squad and it would be in our interest to offer the loan of a few players as and when Hull are back playing to tide them over, even if we continue to pay them. It’s better than teams needing to pull out and then all teams lose money on the tv deal.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Worrying stuff. The game may have to come up with something to help the situation. There’s obviously a lot of Toronto players with time on their hands but Hull aren’t going to want to pay them just as a token gesture of fulfilling fixtures. Hopefully it gets no worse and I guess that leaves around 20 players Covid free, with the 9 players to drip back in as and when. I know we have a really deep squad and it would be in our interest to offer the loan of a few players as and when Hull are back playing to tide them over, even if we continue to pay them. It’s better than teams needing to pull out and then all teams lose money on the tv deal.'"
Saving grace is they've played more games than anyone in the league.
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