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| To be fair it was a very good achievement for the Featherstone team. I wouldn't have give them a cats in hell chance of beating the Wigan team beforehand.
After seeing the result I expected the Fev team to be made up of first team players and was pretty amazed at their make-up. I believe Fev deserve plenty of praise for what they did and what they appear to be doing with their youth development.
Whilst obviously they are going a bit over board in some of the posts a little giddiness can be understood and I'm sure tolerated.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"To be fair it was a very good achievement for the Featherstone team. I wouldn't have give them a cats in hell chance of beating the Wigan team beforehand.
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They cheated though haha
How many a side?
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| Well that is shocking.
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| How has that not been spotted? I thought refs were meant to count the players at kick off? If he'd snuck on then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt but that is shocking.
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| Quote ="dubairl"its your fans and you included coming on to the WIGAN board trying to provoke people. also it is a kids cup and a good little tournement nothing serious so no real reason to get over anything, we already beat you in the game that matters
have nice day.'"
Eye and your coach wouldnt dare of come to Fev and took us on under the same rules. The game is corrupt from top to bottom, why the helll should we pay 100k for our juniors and you get yours paid for? and were still better
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| Quote ="gingdong"Quote ="dubairl"its your fans and you included coming on to the WIGAN board trying to provoke people. also it is a kids cup and a good little tournement nothing serious so no real reason to get over anything, we already beat you in the game that matters
have nice day.'"
Eye and your coach wouldnt dare of come to Fev and took us on under the same rules. The game is corrupt from top to bottom, why the helll should we pay 100k for our juniors and you get yours paid for? and were still better'"
look you haven't been good enough to be in superleague so why all of a sudden would wigan just only start with 1 oversea's player and disrupt are team?
give your head a wobble, your team won at a 9's tourne with 10 players on the pitch, when was the last time you produced a sam tomkins, liam farrell, lee mossop, micky mac, josh charnley, darrell goulding, paul prescott, chris tuson well i could go on for awhile longer but i wont i guess you get the gist.
and if wigan doesn't pay for its academy then who does?
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| Valvoline Cup
P W L D PF PA DIFF BNS PTS
1 Warrington Wolves U20 14 12 2 0 574 211 363 0 24
2 Leeds Rhinos U20 12 11 1 0 442 202 240 0 22
3 Salford City Reds U20 13 11 2 0 486 306 180 0 22
4 Hull FC U20 13 8 4 1 362 309 53 0 17
5 St. Helens U20 12 8 4 0 394 243 151 0 16
6 Wakefield Wildcats U20 13 7 6 0 357 302 55 0 14
[size=1507 Wigan Warriors U20 11 5 5 1 348 260 88 0 11 [/size
8 Castleford Tigers U20 12 5 7 0 320 412 -92 0 10
9 Widnes Vikings U20 12 4 8 0 326 458 -132 0 8
10 London Broncos U20 12 3 9 0 247 402 -155 0 6
11 Hull KR U20 13 3 10 0 242 424 -182 0 6
12 Huddersfield Giants U20 11 1 10 0 200 476 -276 0 2
13 Bradford Bulls U20 10 0 10 0 146 439 -293 0 0
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| Quote ="RED MOUNTAIN"Valvoline Cup
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1 Warrington Wolves U20 14 12 2 0 574 211 363 0 24
2 Leeds Rhinos U20 12 11 1 0 442 202 240 0 22
3 Salford City Reds U20 13 11 2 0 486 306 180 0 22
4 Hull FC U20 13 8 4 1 362 309 53 0 17
5 St. Helens U20 12 8 4 0 394 243 151 0 16
6 Wakefield Wildcats U20 13 7 6 0 357 302 55 0 14
[size=1507 Wigan Warriors U20 11 5 5 1 348 260 88 0 11 [/size
8 Castleford Tigers U20 12 5 7 0 320 412 -92 0 10
9 Widnes Vikings U20 12 4 8 0 326 458 -132 0 8
10 London Broncos U20 12 3 9 0 247 402 -155 0 6
11 Hull KR U20 13 3 10 0 242 424 -182 0 6
12 Huddersfield Giants U20 11 1 10 0 200 476 -276 0 2
13 Bradford Bulls U20 10 0 10 0 146 439 -293 0 0'"
Well we have won that comp 4 years in a row and have some games in hand to play yet. Not been a great season but a long way to go yet.
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| And this 10 men thing. I make it at least 2 and half minutes that Featherstone played with 10 men at the start of the second half. We actually scored during that period, but they got to defend a powerplay with 10 men.
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| Quote ="dubairl"look you haven't been good enough to be in superleague so why all of a sudden would wigan just only start with 1 oversea's player and disrupt are team?
give your head a wobble, your team won at a 9's tourne with 10 players on the pitch, when was the last time you produced a sam tomkins, liam farrell, lee mossop, micky mac, josh charnley, darrell goulding, paul prescott, chris tuson well i could go on for awhile longer but i wont i guess you get the gist.
and if wigan doesn't pay for its academy then who does?'"
Good enough what a joke that is we have won the league for the last 2 seasons how much better do we have to be. Yes sod the rules we dont want the mighty Wigin having to disrupt there team so we will let them have 5 overseas players and Fev 1. Shaun Wane wouldnt of dared take us on with the same rules and you know it. The pic of the 9 a side means nothing the extra player could of been ordered off before the restart. Your next remark makes me think im talking to one of Wigins plastic new fans, where do you think the Briscoes (hull) Hardaker (leeds) and Raynor the only GB player to come back from the Aussie tour with any credit all came from. Where do you think Newlove the world record transfer at the time came from, i could go on but you get the gist.
The RFL give you 100k to supplement your youth we get fek all, so just imagine how many more we could produce given the same treatment. The RFL should follow there own respect campaign message and treat all member clubs the same thats all we ask
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| BUGGER!!!! I did not realise it was our fault that Fev are not in SL, and that just everything is our fault. DAMN!!!
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| I get it. Wigan should have played without their overseas players against Fev so that we could then have been accused of disrespecting the opposition by not playing a full strength side. Clever!
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| Ok. I know that Fev fans are referred too as flatcappers and there was some bloke on Sky parading a ferret around whilst looking forward to the first TV program to be shown in colour, but some of the ones posting on here are really showing themselves up.
Yes you were outstanding against us and ran us very close, but one swallow doesn't make a summer. Exeter drew at Old Trafford once in the FA Cup. Do you think they would survive in the Premier League? You raised your game against the cup holders, favourites and league leaders but you have a long way to go to be able to sustain that week in week out.
Oh and for the record:
Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Hughes
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Leuluai (off quota AFAIK)
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Hansen
O'Loughlin
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That side is more than capable of beating Fev and 9 times out of 10 it would.
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| I've also forgot Dudson, Flower, Lloyd and Logan Tomkins
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| Quote ="Conroy"I've also forgot Dudson, Flower, Lloyd and Logan Tomkins'"
And Fielden.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And Fielden.'"
True. I'm not sure of injuries back then but he was obviously one.
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1 Warrington Wolves U20 14 12 2 0 574 211 363 0 24
2 Leeds Rhinos U20 12 11 1 0 442 202 240 0 22
3 Salford City Reds U20 13 11 2 0 486 306 180 0 22
4 Hull FC U20 13 8 4 1 362 309 53 0 17
5 St. Helens U20 12 8 4 0 394 243 151 0 16
6 Wakefield Wildcats U20 13 7 6 0 357 302 55 0 14
[size=1507 Wigan Warriors U20 11 5 5 1 348 260 88 0 11 [/size
8 Castleford Tigers U20 12 5 7 0 320 412 -92 0 10
9 Widnes Vikings U20 12 4 8 0 326 458 -132 0 8
10 London Broncos U20 12 3 9 0 247 402 -155 0 6
11 Hull KR U20 13 3 10 0 242 424 -182 0 6
12 Huddersfield Giants U20 11 1 10 0 200 476 -276 0 2
13 Bradford Bulls U20 10 0 10 0 146 439 -293 0 0'"
I don't think we would be in that position if we didn't have Mellor, Marsh and Russell out on loan. Added to the fact that we currently use Tuson, Hughes, Tomkins, Spencer, Crosby and Lloyd in the first team squad because of injuries in the first team.
Throw in the games in hand and our recent record of winning that league as well! Your argument looks daft! We are almost as good at winning the under 20's league as saints are at losing GF's.
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| Aren't the majority of the U20's side eligible for the U18's as well?
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| Quote ="Odem"I don't think we would be in that position if we didn't have Mellor, Marsh and Russell out on loan. Added to the fact that we currently use Tuson, Hughes, Tomkins, Spencer, Crosby and Lloyd in the first team squad because of injuries in the first team.
Throw in the games in hand and our recent record of winning that league as well! Your argument looks daft! We are almost as good at winning the under 20's league as saints are at losing GF's.'"
I agree with what you're saying in principle, but I think you're clutching at straws including Tuson in that. He made his debut 4 years ago and now has over 50 1st team appearances. I'd add Dudson and Gelling to your list though, they have got a lot more 1st team action than I think anybody anticipated.
This season Wane seems to want to give his older 20s more first team experience by using the dual-reg/loan system, plus the link-up with South Wales Scorpions.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I agree with what you're saying in principle, but I think you're clutching at straws including Tuson in that. He made his debut 4 years ago and now has over 50 1st team appearances. I'd add Dudson and Gelling to your list though, they have got a lot more 1st team action than I think anybody anticipated.
This season Wane seems to want to give his older 20s more first team experience by using the dual-reg/loan system, plus the link-up with South Wales Scorpions.'"
I think he is still only 21 though, maybe 22.
He wouldn't be in the 17 if everyone was fit.
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| Quote ="Odem"I think he is still only 21 though, maybe 22.
He wouldn't be in the 17 if everyone was fit.'"
Not sure how you can say that with so much confidence considering Monday was the first game he's missed all season.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"Not sure how you can say that with so much confidence considering Monday was the first game he's missed all season.'"
Hansen
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Have all been better than him this year IMO. He just doesnt offer enough going forward.
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| Quote ="Odem"Hansen
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Have all been better than him this year IMO. He just doesnt offer enough going forward.'"
I agree, but I think it's safe to say Tuson would be in Wane's first choice 17 over Hughes.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"I agree, but I think it's safe to say Tuson would be in Wane's first choice 17 over Hughes.'"
Rightfully so IMO
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| Quote ="Conroy"Rightfully so IMO'"
Why? If you pick the squad based on performance then surely Hughes would be picked ahead of Tuson. As much as people say things like 'Tuson tackles well' so does Hughes and Hughes does a lot more in attack too.
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