Anti Wigan? Your having a laugh!

IM nothing of the sort and anyone who knows from my past posts will confirm this, in fact I've been called a closet Wigan fan on our board at times.

A anti Wigan fan that has posted that IMO Wigan deserve top spot as I feel they have been the best team this year, I've said Tomkins should be Man of steel, I've said that Tomkins is world class and the best player in super league, I've said maguire is the best coach in super league, I was for Hoffman in the tackle on wheeler at DW, I'm a big fan of Hoffman, I said I'd take Richards over foster any day if the week in the foster-Richards debate, I said any team that beats wolves, saints and Leeds deserves to win the CC, I've said a thousand tines that your a very well drilled side, I've said that carmont is better then any of our centres etc

IMO that ain't anti Wigan at all!

On the flip side, I don't like Tomkins as he's a horrible little thing, I don't like the messing at the PTB but as I've said in the past if you get away with it then fair play.

Not many negatives towards Wigan really fir such a anti Wigan person.

He certainly made up for his f*ck up in the Semi

How could you possibly come up with that?

Take the Saints specs off and put the bitterness to one side and judge the try on it's merits.

There can't have been too many better. I was at Wembley for the Martin Offiah try in 94 and this one was in that class.

Stop de-railing threads with your 'everyone look at me' posts or you'll be taking a break whether you want to or not.

Name the last time Sam Tomkins tried tricking the ref whilst being tackled by holding the tacklers arm down?

That try was in many respects BETTER than the Offiah one in 94.

Offiah's try was about speed.

This try had skill, teamwork, speed, strength and ultimately was more crucial.

Agree, the try had so much more to it, its slightly tarnished though by the poor attempt at a cover tackle that he really should have made from McGuire and the pretty average play from Webb in trying to defend, but the try on the whole had far more to it than Offiah's in my opinion.

Doubt if you will ever see a better try in a final. Thought Gleeson's 2nd try in last season GF was special but Joel's was something else. Will go down in history with the Saints try in the play offs against the Bulls a few season ago as one of the greatest.

Good try, but not better than atkins effort last year. If BJB could have rouded sam or mcguire finished the effort in the second half it would have been a better effort. Still a very good try.

Joel swatted mcguire off like a fly

and on a better note cracking parking spot that pal

So you've decided a try that wasn't scored would have been better than a length of the field try.

One of the best rugby league pictures ever. Danny McGuire deserves to be flat on the ground I loved seeing that when he did it.

It's a shame the four pages of this thread aren't all about fans of all teams appreciating what was without doubt a fantastic try. As i watched it yesterday I thought it was reminiscent of Kevin Iro in his prime. I've just got home and watched the Offiah and Tomkins try thanks to the BBC links posted here and I have to say, very strangely, I agree with John Kear! Tomkins try was every bit as good as Offiah's and very similar.
A fantastic try and worthy of watching again and again.

Would have been the operative word. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean my opinion will change.

FAIL

Atkins try was simply rank bad tackling, and no one to beat, Tomkins had ten times more work to do to finish his effort.

Ofcourse, the exact same rank bad tackling was the reason tomkins scored then wasnt it. Afterall it was the same teams shoddy defense. In your own words, FAIL.

JT's try wasnt better than offiahs , but at the same time , offiahs wasnt better than JT's

very different players

both equally as good as each other in my book


reasons ,, did anybody think JT would be tackled , i certainly thought he would be caught at some stage , most people thought once offiah broke the initial line he would go all the way

I thought this but reading yesterdays programme Offiah talks about going through the gears and having to get past Alan Tait who he knew would try and show him outside, when you watch that try back you can actually see Offiah accelerate to get past him although he still had to go on the outside.

I like JTs try for the way Sam created the space for Joel, the hand off on McGuire, but more than that I liked the way Joel split Peacock and Webb. You could argue that Peacock wouldn't have caught Joel but both he and Webb got very close to hime until he darted through the middle of them.

A hand off on Maguire and making Peacock and Webb look stupid isn't rank bad tackling. It took some scoring and you know it.

Like I said originally, you FAIL, after all, you are a y fan.

Atkins handed off two players after scooting from acting half, so it was just as good as Joel's by your definition. Never have i said that it didn't take some scoring, but so did atkins. So, Once again, you have FAILED. Yes i am a y fan, oh no, what an insult, we are so y that we have still got a chance of beating you to win the league leaders shield. moron.

Another bitter y on our board trying to find every little thing to snipe at. Atkins is crap anyway so you FAIL.

Tomkins try was better because we say so, after all WE ARE WIGAN.

Go sniff you bitter little y fan.

im getting soooo fed up of us always getting slated,
its getting very stupid these days,

A confession. When JT set sail for that try I thought "Oh no, he'll take the wrong option". I am still far from convinced about him at centre.

I was delighted to be proved wrong. He took the try superbly, it was a breathtaking combination of strength, pace and footwork.

It was one of the all time great Wembley tries.

I'm still not sure he's a centre. But I do know one thing: only a great player could have scored that try.

Well done Joel, congratulations on writing yourself into RL history. People will be talking about that try for a very, very long time.

Reminds me a lot of the try which Tomkins scored vs Wakefield last year (the game when paint allegedly dried). Feel sure that score was a big influence on Maguire picking him at centre this year. Yet another example of excellence in coaching.