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| Quote ="handrags"you mean just like your dirty little swine Tomkins ! who did cunninghams legs in a cheap shot the other week ?'"
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| Quote ="Fishsta"I'm officially handing the title of Dirtiest RL Player to Cunningham'"
Fishsta is my favourite.
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| Quote ="handrags"you mean just like your dirty little swine Tomkins ! who did cunninghams legs in a cheap shot the other week ?'"
At least he did not run 20mtr to punch someone like Cunningham did on Saturday to Coley.
I just hope Sam gets away with as much as Cunningham has over his long playing career.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Is tackling below the knee illegal too, now?'"
Only if it's on Cunningham!!!
Hadn't you realised yet, he has special rules applied to him.
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| Quote ="handrags"you mean just like your dirty little swine Tomkins ! who did cunninghams legs in a cheap shot the other week ?'"
Dirty lol???
If only he'd milked that high shot, who knows what might of happenned.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"Whoah, whoah, whoah - if the RFL weren't signed up to WADA, why are you quoting WADA guidelines in support of your argument against Cunningham?
They have no jurisdiction in the situation we're talking about. You can't make a case for what should have happened according to WADA if the RFL weren't operating under WADA rules.
If they are playing sport under the auspices of WADA rules, they are subject to those rules.
Either the RFL were under WADA rules, and Cunningham was not banned and WADA didn't object (hence quoting WADA rules seems a little strange), or the RLF were [inot[/i signatories to WADA and eance quoting WADA rules is even more strange, and irrelevent in addition.
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Not really - seeing WADA are the world organisation regarding drugs in sport I think it's pretty reasonable to compare what would have happened. Cunningham escaped because at that time we hadn't signed up to their code when a lot of other sports had. Given the fact we did not that long after shows how lucky he was.
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| Tomkins and Coley both got what they deserved - if they cant take it, dont dish it out.
As it happens, I didnt see either player complaining too much about getting a smack - they both knew they deserved it and had it coming.
Coley will have known when he belted Gilmour that he was going to get it back the next time he took the ball in - which is why he looked like he was playing full back for a few minutes after. At least he stayed on the field, unlike Ryan Bailey earlier in the year.
Its a mans game, and all the players know that.
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| Quote ="Donna"Only if it's on Cunningham!!!
Hadn't you realised yet, he has special rules applied to him.'"
TBF while it was not illegal if you lot don't think that Tompkins knew what he could cause by going in the way he did on the knee joint, then you are all very innocently minded.
Don't get me wrong, i really respect the player he is going to be & I'm not saying he aimed to end his career, but he went in hard on a joint knowing it could take him out the game and while maybe not illegal its not particularly "clean" its very similar to JJB does when he tries the chicken wing - but the RFL try to put a stop to that one.
Cunningham is no angel, but neither for example was Farrell or Sculthorpe. Senior and your current captain both love a cheap shot and there are many more the same or worse, all of these had or still have pretty clean records at the end of their respective careers.
Its a physical game, emotions run very high, there is very little deliberate attempt to injure which is good. Unfortunately its something all teams will have problems with both for & against for the forseeable future unless the RFL has a major clampdown.
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| Quote ="Donna"Dirty lol???
If only he'd milked that high shot, who knows what might of happenned.'"
the old adage springs to mind !! IF YOU GIVE OUT CHEAP SHOTS, EXPECT TO GET THEM BACK Cunningham isn't going to let a squirt like Tomkin's to try and end his career without a bit of payback LETS SAY HE GOT OFF LIGHTLY.
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| Quote ="handrags"the old adage springs to mind !! IF YOU GIVE OUT CHEAP SHOTS, EXPECT TO GET THEM BACK Cunningham isn't going to let a squirt like Tomkin's to try and end his career without a bit of payback LETS SAY HE GOT OFF LIGHTLY.'"
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| Quote ="handrags"the old adage springs to mind !! IF YOU GIVE OUT CHEAP SHOTS, EXPECT TO GET THEM BACK Cunningham isn't going to let a squirt like Tomkin's to try and end his career without a bit of payback LETS SAY HE GOT OFF LIGHTLY.'"
Bit dramatic
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| Quote ="handrags"the old adage springs to mind !! IF YOU GIVE OUT CHEAP SHOTS, EXPECT TO GET THEM BACK Cunningham isn't going to let a squirt like Tomkin's to try and end his career without a bit of payback LETS SAY HE GOT OFF LIGHTLY.'"
Give over Bubbles DeVere was never in any danger from that tackle.But all the crying he did wasnt surprising we know he doesnt like it super tough. Good job its not GB v the aussies.he would already be booked in for his "operation"
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Not really - seeing WADA are the world organisation regarding drugs in sport I think it's pretty reasonable to compare what would have happened. '"
No, it's not.
Like I said, either the RFL operated under WADA rules, and WADA therefore accepted the punishment handed down to Cunningham, or the RFL were not operating under WADA rules and your quotations from their guidelines are irrelevent as to whether Cunningham "got away with it".
Quote Cunningham escaped because at that time we hadn't signed up to their code when a lot of other sports had. Given the fact we did not that long after shows how lucky he was.'"
It shows nothing of the kind.
It's like arguing that someone who shoulder charges another player without punishment is lucky and has "got away with it" provided the RFL ban shoulder charges at some point in the future. After all, a lot of other sports have banned shoulder charges or never allowed them in the first place.
Your argument is asinine. Claiming someone has been lucky and "got away with" something on the basis of an [iexternal set of guidelines which are not even ratified by the sport in question the time of the offence[/i is just absurd.
You might as well claim that all the players who played under a 5m offside rule were "lucky" or "got away with it" because we now use a 10m rule. It's utter nonsense.
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| Quote ="handrags"the old adage springs to mind !! IF YOU GIVE OUT CHEAP SHOTS, EXPECT TO GET THEM BACK Cunningham isn't going to let a squirt like Tomkin's to try and end his career without a bit of payback LETS SAY HE GOT OFF LIGHTLY.'"
Get over yourself you tart. If you honestly think players go out to end other peoples careers, then that speaks volumes for the type of character your are.
Nothing in Tompkins tackle on KC and nothing in KC attemted hit on Sam.
Neither player complained after the respective games, its just folk like you (and some on here) who like to make out that everyone is as petty as you.
I would be amazed if KC was on a "revenge" mission. Infact he had many more opportunities in the rest of the game, and nothing happend.
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Get over yourself you tart. If you honestly think players go out to end other peoples careers, then that speaks volumes for the type of character your are.
Nothing in Tompkins tackle on KC and nothing in KC attemted hit on Sam.
Neither player complained after the respective games, its just folk like you (and some on here) who like to make out that everyone is as petty as you.
I would be amazed if KC was on a "revenge" mission. Infact he had many more opportunities in the rest of the game, and nothing happend.'"
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| How the hell has this crap got to 5 pages?
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| Quote ="CAM."How the hell has this crap got to 5 pages?
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And they say spats between Hull and Rovers is dire.Its handbags compared to this little lot.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"No, it's not.
Like I said, either the RFL operated under WADA rules, and WADA therefore accepted the punishment handed down to Cunningham, or the RFL were not operating under WADA rules and your quotations from their guidelines are irrelevent as to whether Cunningham "got away with it".
It shows nothing of the kind.
It's like arguing that someone who shoulder charges another player without punishment is lucky and has "got away with it" provided the RFL ban shoulder charges at some point in the future. After all, a lot of other sports have banned shoulder charges or never allowed them in the first place.
Your argument is asinine. Claiming someone has been lucky and "got away with" something on the basis of an [iexternal set of guidelines which are not even ratified by the sport in question the time of the offence[/i is just absurd.'"
It's perfectly reasonable to compare against the policy and guidelines against the world body for drug testing at the time - especially so when the game was quite happy to sign-up to the charter eventually, realising it was out line with sport drug testing procedures.
Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"
You might as well claim that all the players who played under a 5m offside rule were "lucky" or "got away with it" because we now use a 10m rule. It's utter nonsense.'"
No your analogy is utter nonsense as it bares no relation to what has been said.
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| even under the current WADA rules there is a discretionary element to the punishment for those who can provide extenuating circumstances.
I'm sure KC could defend himself on that score seeing as though he was poisoned by an employee of the sport's governing body.
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| Sutherland first came to Wigan, he and his "qualifications" were checked out. He was not recruited and was not heard of again until he re-appeared at Saints and the RFL.
So why didn't they check him out as Wigan did?
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Sutherland first came to Wigan, he and his "qualifications" were checked out. He was not recruited and was not heard of again until he re-appeared at Saints and the RFL.
So why didn't they check him out as Wigan did?'"
who knows. Saints "got him" on a recommendation from the RFL, so probably did less stringent checks than they would on someone who had just wandered in off the street.
According to Sculthorpe's book, it was Stan Wall who first sussed him out at Saints.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Sutherland first came to Wigan, he and his "qualifications" were checked out. He was not recruited and was not heard of again until he re-appeared at Saints and the RFL.
So why didn't they check him out as Wigan did?'"
Because it was part of a sport wide conspiracy as the RFL were desperate to allow Saints players to take drugs with impunity?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Because it was part of a sport wide conspiracy as the RFL were desperate to allow Saints players to take drugs with impunity?'"
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Sutherland first came to Wigan, he and his "qualifications" were checked out. He was not recruited and was not heard of again until he re-appeared at Saints and the RFL.
So why didn't they check him out as Wigan did?'"
Seems that every man and his dog on here knew what Hock was upto. months even years before he got found out. Why didnt the wigan club know?
Point? These things sometimes slip through the net I suppose.
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