Now that IS interesting...

Or maybe the senior employee was just keeping a watch too see if the third parties young relations were worth signing?

We can all invent plausible stories, but can't explain why/how Ian Lenagan is being kept in the dark.

And a further incident from the previous year?

But it still doesn't mean it's true and how IL presumably doesn't know about it. Because if he did that would be one major cover up!

Not to mention possibly landing IL and others in serious police matters if they did know about it!

This is going to make a great film.

WIGANGATE

The greatest story ever told

Or

Fantasy island?

You mean the greatest story never told?

The only fantasy is the rubbish being discussed on this thread! IL knew exactly what was going on and personally negotiated a good deal given the situation that was forced on him by Hock. Most of the comments on tthis thread are way off the mark.

IL did not know about. If you took your defender of Wigan RLFC hat off for a second then maybe you will understand. I mentioned Gleeson because it was some time for two reasons. Wigan RLFC staff tried to get Martin Gleeson away before Madge saw him. He was too stubborn and Madge saw him which led to his eventual departure. A Wigan RLFC employee and the third party tried to solve the problem facing Martin Gleeson only to make it far worse.

In the last month or so Ian Lenagan asked that Wigan employee did he know the third party and he said no. The example shows you that Ian Lenagan clearly does not know everything that happens at Wigan RLFC and that employees lie to him.

The third party has done several 'tasks' for a Wigan employee in the name of Wigan RLFC.

Most people know that Gareth Hock is not the first person to go on loan to Widnes for a season due to internal problems at Wigan. One of the players involved in that issue who is still at Wigan was also guilty of vandalising (keying) another players car mid season. No public destruction of that Wigan player though by club or fans.

Discipline at Wigan RLFC has gone backwards since Michael Maguire left. Ian Lenagan is one man. A very clever and successful man who despite selling his business still divides his time between two sporting club and other activities.

Cue childish insults. Alternatively, heed what Last Son and Vectra are telling you.

Do you think that Ian Lenagan only asked one person, or are you saying it's a big cover up by management and players?

If he knew about it Rogues then he would not have made the press statement he did and somebody else may have lost their job. I believe Ian Lenagan tries to run Wigan to the highest standardspossible but he is just one person and the involvement of this third party would never have been allowed had Ian Lenagan known about it.

Ian Lenagan reads these boards, I find it very hard to believe he would counsel the opinion of just one person on such a serious matter. He has openly admitted to speaking to Hock and his agent. If they told him a different story then why wouldn't he ask others. Even you must admit that doesn't add up. Don't forget these meetings were before the statement.

I'm not saying you are completely wrong, but there are far too many holes in the rumours.

Gareth Hock refused to say anything. Likewise the other Wigan employee. How can Ian Lenagan be expected to solve a problem when neither person is giving him the information. The only solution was the one Ian Lenagan opted for.

I'm impressed the way you know so much about IL, his movements of the last few weeks, how much he knows, what conversations he's had, what decisions he reached, etc.

Presumably he told you all this?

Otherwise it's nothing but guesswork.

People questioning what you're posting on a public forum isn't bullying, insulting or anything else you might want to make up. Nothing in reply to any of the "free the Wigan one" defenders has come close to breaking the AUP. If you're that sensitive you can't handle people questioning rumours you're in the wrong place.

Then why did he not ask someone else? Radlinski for example.
I'm using Radlinski because he is a highly respected member of staff.

At 57 posts (not that it's a measure of quality) I'd have to question how this guy knows everything when IL does not.

To me this sounds more like a rumour that has been planted amidst the storm of Hock being removed. It's a bit naughty, but you only have to hook a couple of fans, to get it spread. The night Royce Simmons was sacked at Saints, several other stories came out, that where all fake. But given that we where already in the season and another match was due, none of them really took hold.

In the end IL and Hock have sat in the same room, if any of this other 3rd party stuff was true, Hock would have spoken about it and it would have been checked.

Everything else is just people latching onto others mischief.

In the name of wigan RLFC?
I know that's probably a slip of the tongue but I'd seriously reword that part of your post!

PS

Are you taking the bullying comment back yet?

I think there is a certain kind of fan who feels so honoured to be told anything by a player or a player's spokesmen that it never enters his head it may only be half the truth or even less than that, or that he might have been 'recruited' to put out a rumour in order to save the player's face.

FW's assertion is a case in point. It hinges entirely on his unquestioning belief that IL doesn't know what is going on under his nose in the club he rebuilt from top to bottom and packed with his own people, even though everyone else in the club apparently does. And FW's response when this position is queried - "IL doesn't know, that's all there is to it, you'll just have to accept it, etc" - is equally typical of that mindset; in other words, he can't face the possibility that he might have been duped.

The phrase 'don't believe everything you're told' is never more appropriate than when fans are hanging around players.

You are most likely, exactly right.

Do not take this the wrong way but you do not really know what we are talking about here. Most Wigan fans know what we are talking about when we mention a 3rd party. Nobody is going to mention who, none of us need to but none of us want to invite the problems that person brings. It may be difficult for you to comprehend but RL players can be silenced.

I have posted enough for the Wigan posters to know I say has some credence.

Last Son and Vectra are being bullied for simply posting something that a few regulars do not like. Whether you understand that is not my problem and what people post about what I say does not matter to me.

Forgive me for pointing thus out but no you haven't.

You've posted snippets of the rumours circulating round Wigan.
That does not mean they have any credence? It just means you know the rumours.

As an aside it's just struck me that it seems strange that none of these rumours were intimated too on any message boards until AFTER the Gaz hock loan deal and subsequent IL statement.

Seems strange to me that all those in the know weren't posting these ahem "Facts" previously?

Can some one PM with the alleged rumours going around I have not heard of any.

Good luck with that. Although if you do manage to get a solid answer from anyone then please do forward it on to me, because i am also completely in the dark!

Can the real third party stand up because i don't have a bloody clue who it is