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| Quote ="Ron"Dave he actually praised Wigan attacking play in his pre-match interview as well....'"
It was the comments in the press prior to today I was on about so perhaps I should not have said pre-match comments. Those comments in the press implied (well to me at least) he was having the seemingly de-rigour dig at Wigan's tactics as being negative.
What do you think of my view on the tackle?
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| I have already said on the wire board that the tackle was perfectly fair.... Solo was moving forward with one man up top, so Coley had no choice but to dive at his legs.
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| Quote ="Ron"I have already said on the wire board that the tackle was perfectly fair.... Solo was moving forward with one man up top, so Coley had no choice but to dive at his legs.'"
Fair enough. I rarely venture onto other boards so have not seen that.
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| Quote ="Ron"I have already said on the wire board that the tackle was perfectly fair.... Solo was moving forward with one man up top, so Coley had no choice but to dive at his legs.'"
agree with this post.
Also I've known coley since he was about 16 and he would never try to injure somebody like that. Far too nice a guy.
Unfortunately one of those things that happens and slowed down looks worse than it is.
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| Quote ="citywolf"agree with this post.
Also I've known coley since he was about 16 and he would never try to injure somebody like that. Far too nice a guy.
Unfortunately one of those things that happens and slowed down looks worse than it is.'"
Nice to see such comments on here so lets hope the disciplinary don't watch everything in slow motion.
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| when I watched it I thought it was his ribs that where the problem from the hit by Mossop. He was pointing at his side when he was down also if it was that bad of an injury he should have been carried off (i'm sure that there would have been enough people to lift his fat up on a stretcher).
Also his try the ball hit the ground however what it never shown where on the pitch it hit. I personally thought and still do that the ball was grounded short and then he carried on and he was held up in field, and couldn't believe Dick Silverwood didn't go to the screen.
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"And I still don't think Solomona got that ball down for his 'try'.'"
I was stood at the bar at the time and saw it on the TV. I couldn't see the ball tbh.
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| Ive seen it a couple of times on TV now and it looked like he got it down to me. Our lads didnt really protest too much either so it was probably down. Theres no way Silverwood could of been able to tell though imo, it should of been looked at.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Ive seen it a couple of times on TV now and it looked like he got it down to me. Our lads didnt really protest too much either so it was probably down. Theres no way Silverwood could of been able to tell though imo, it should of been looked at.'"
I also thought the first Matt King try should have been looked at because it seemed on the replay as if his foot hit the flag - but only for matters of consistency.
Personally, I prefer the NRL style where the video ref is only used in extremely questionable incidents, and even then acts quickly and decisively rather than farting around for hours, trying to find any way he can to disallow the try, which is the way we do it.
But as I say, if the video ref was going to be used regarding a Wigan try, when the onfield referee had clearly already called 'play-on' after the incident in question (Carmont's no-tackle), then he should also have been used in the other situations.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I also thought the first Matt King try should have been looked at because it seemed on the replay as if his foot hit the flag - but only for matters of consistency.
Personally, I prefer the NRL style where the video ref is only used in extremely questionable incidents, and even then acts quickly and decisively rather than farting around for hours, trying to find any way he can to disallow the try, which is the way we do it.
But as I say, if the video ref was going to be used regarding a Wigan try, when the onfield referee had clearly already called 'play-on' after the incident in question (Carmont's no-tackle), then he should also have been used in the other situations.'"
Thats Carmont incident was met by strong opposition from the commentator was it Dave Woods his name? John Kear said there was nothing wrong and the other guy wouldnt have it at all. I noted a few times the commentator opposed us and Kear of all people had to step in to put him right Im not sure who he supports but he sounded like he had something against us imo.
Kings foot did make contact with the corner post after seeing a few replays but i think he just got it down a nanosecond before.
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| Smith ought to concentrate on his own team selection instead of bellyaching over innocuous tackles.I mean come on,no briers yet he plays bridge at stand off and leaves Monaghan at hooker with another two hookers on the bench.Monaghan ought to have played scrum half with myler at stand off.both wire half backs were anonymous.myler backed up to score two tries and that was about it from both of them put together.
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| I reckon the only question mark is over whether Solomona was standing at the time of the tackle or still moving - it was hard to establish which was the case at the time. If he was standing then Coley could be brought to account for tackling the standing leg as the RFL have been big on that this season.
But Smith whinged about LMS and his tackle on Morley after our last game against Wire even though Morley's injury was actually caused by himself getting a tackle wrong; LMS was banned for potential neck injury due to pushing the head forward on to the chest, and not for the head injury that Morley brought upon himself.
Smith just seems to moan when his players don't perform the way he thinks they should.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I also thought the first Matt King try should have been looked at because it seemed on the replay as if his foot hit the flag - but only for matters of consistency.
Personally, I prefer the NRL style where the video ref is only used in extremely questionable incidents, and even then acts quickly and decisively rather than farting around for hours, trying to find any way he can to disallow the try, which is the way we do it.
But as I say, if the video ref was going to be used regarding a Wigan try, when the onfield referee had clearly already called 'play-on' after the incident in question (Carmont's no-tackle), then he should also have been used in the other situations.'"
Asking the video ref to look at the Carmont incident before Coley's try is one of the worst examples of asking the video ref to check i've ever seen. Had he decided that there was a wire hand on George it would have to have been brought back for a penalty when he only carried on after Silverwood had told him to play on. Ridiculous and I would have been livid if it was chalked off.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I reckon the only question mark is over whether Solomona was standing at the time of the tackle or still moving - it was hard to establish which was the case at the time. If he was standing then Coley could be brought to account for tackling the standing leg as the RFL have been big on that this season.
But Smith whinged about LMS and his tackle on Morley after our last game against Wire even though Morley's injury was actually caused by himself getting a tackle wrong; LMS was banned for potential neck injury due to pushing the head forward on to the chest, and not for the head injury that Morley brought upon himself.
Smith just seems to moan when his players don't perform the way he thinks they should.'"
No really?
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| i've watched the Solomona try back, and stopped at exactly the contact point... His elbow hit the floor, then he rolled onto his back. No ball contact with the ground. No try. Smithy would've said the same.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just seen the incident and what the hell was the pointy nosed twitching idiot shaking his head at? If that's now an illegal tackle the games done for.
Maybe he was just shaking his head saying 'I told him he needed to lose some weight before his knees buckled'.'"
Or maybe he knew it was a game changer. Ridiculous to say the injury was deliberate, though. He's every right to be upset at the result, but it's a dummy-spit of epic proportions to suggest malice.
Quote ="moonlight flit"Well I must have made it up then !
Solomona got held up. I have checked the coverage and it doesn't show him get the ball down at all.'"
He did. My first impression was that it wasn't a try, but the video replay showed it was fine... just.
As for King, he wasn't in touch, it's Charnley who takes down the corner flag.
We were the better team all over the pitch in the end. That's the reason we won. Yes Hodgson had a nightmare, whilst Sam and Charnley had two of their best performances for a long time.
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| If that was a bad tackle then the RFL need to re write their Level 2 coaching course as Coley used the technique they teach!! The tutor on the course also explained that at Pro clubs they teach 16s through to first team about wrapping the ball up holding the player up and then taking the player down with the legs! He worked at Warrington!!!
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| What everyone has missed is that only Wigan do this and the tackles so similar by every other team are different. The reason is obvious, wrong shirt colour.
Lets all grow up, the Coley tackle is done 200+ times every weekend, just an accident.
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| Fook it, lets change it to tag rugby, FFS.
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| changed the game but totally legal.
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| Watching the game again, you can hear Silverwood ask the VR to take a look again. Nothing comes back. Nowt wrong with it!
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| Quote ="jonh"changed the game but totally legal.'"
Yes it did, but do you think that Solomona could have lasted another 30 minutes before being exposed defensively?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes it did, but do you think that Solomona could have lasted another 30 minutes before being exposed defensively?'"
Good question. When he was being carried off his gut was exposed for all to see.
My wife doesn't watch much RL these days for various reason but she had to sit through a re-run of the game to indulge me and my eldest son. She has no idea who Solomona is but when she saw him with his shirt up and his gut showing no prompting from me or my son she just said "He's too fat to be a Rugby League player". When I said he can be very good for a short time she said "Well that's just not healthy, he's going to have a heart attack soon".
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| Quote ="DaveO"Good question. When he was being carried off his gut was exposed for all to see.
My wife doesn't watch much RL these days for various reason but she had to sit through a re-run of the game to indulge me and my eldest son. She has no idea who Solomona is but when she saw him with his shirt up and his gut showing no prompting from me or my son she just said "He's too fat to be a Rugby League player". When I said he can be very good for a short time she said "Well that's just not healthy, he's going to have a heart attack soon".'"
It makes you wonder about a few things regarding his application in training. I mean Wire are obviously a fit team. They have to be to play the way they do so does Solomona participate fully in training as much as the rest of the squad? Looking at him you'd have to think he doesn't. If I was a Wire fan I'd also be concerned about what kind of shape he'll come back in should the injury keep him out for any length of time
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes it did, but do you think that Solomona could have lasted another 30 minutes before being exposed defensively?'"
All the momentum and possession was with them, they were scoring at will because of him and the space he was creating, I dont think he would have needed to defend.
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