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| Quote ="dany1979"Really? It was a clear closed fist with intent, thuggery at its finest and he should of walked for that, attempting to then pick the injured player off the ground was also uncalled for.
As expected the sky commentary team did their best to defend him but it was a shocker imo.'"
Yes, really. I appreciate the differences of opinion and if the disciplinary decide to ban him fair enough, I won’t agree with it. For me, if Dwyer wasn’t in the process of being tackled he would have made contact fair and square across the chest. The fact he was in the process of going down and IMO MM was already committed he made direct contact with the head. In any circumstances that should have been a penalty but for me there is enough mitigation not to ban him.
It should be said I was pleased to see Dwyer carry on and no serious damage was caused.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Yes, really. I appreciate the differences of opinion and if the disciplinary decide to ban him fair enough, I won’t agree with it. For me, if Dwyer wasn’t in the process of being tackled he would have made contact fair and square across the chest. The fact he was in the process of going down and IMO MM was already committed he made direct contact with the head. In any circumstances that should have been a penalty but for me there is enough mitigation not to ban him.
It should be said I was pleased to see Dwyer carry on and no serious damage was caused.'"
Take the tackle away and he deserves a ban for trying to drag him back to his feet. He knows by that point he’s smacked him in the face, Dwyer had blood pouring from his nose/mouth and he does that?! Really poor. There’s no bigger fan of Micky Mac than me and I’d probably view the incident with biased eyes had he done it in a Wigan shirt but it was ordinary. There are two bans in the incident for me. How he could avoid one when you compare it to some of the pathetic bans handed out recently, is beyond me.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Take the tackle away and he deserves a ban for trying to drag him back to his feet. He knows by that point he’s smacked him in the face, Dwyer had blood pouring from his nose/mouth and he does that?! Really poor. There’s no bigger fan of Micky Mac than me and I’d probably view the incident with biased eyes had he done it in a Wigan shirt but it was ordinary. There are two bans in the incident for me. How he could avoid one when you compare it to some of the pathetic bans handed out recently, is beyond me.'"
I would be at all surprised if he gets a ban I just don’t think it warrants one. I agree about the lifting him up afterwards, that was in called for.
Also agree about the pathetic bans recently handed out. There are a few players the disciplinary seem to give a ban to just for the fun of it, MM is one, Flower is another.
If we compare it to Greenwood recently the difference between the two is huge. I just think when you are committed and another player makes contact causing the attacker to start to go to ground that has to be taken into consideration. It is impossible to pull out or change your trajectory in a split second.
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| Quote ="Trainman"I would be at all surprised if he gets a ban I just don’t think it warrants one. I agree about the lifting him up afterwards, that was in called for.
Also agree about the pathetic bans recently handed out. There are a few players the disciplinary seem to give a ban to just for the fun of it, MM is one, Flower is another.
If we compare it to Greenwood recently the difference between the two is huge. I just think when you are committed and another player makes contact causing the attacker to start to go to ground that has to be taken into consideration. It is impossible to pull out or change your trajectory in a split second.'"
I’m crossing everything he doesn’t get banned but honestly, I think he should get 2-3 games.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"So what do we think our line up will be: Id go:
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Has Greenwood still one match left off his ban?
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| Quote ="jaws1"Has Greenwood still one match left off his ban?'"
Yes unfortunately.
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| So in that case we will probably go with Clubby as the extra sub. However it wouldn't surprise me to see lockers starting with Partington on the bench.
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| So having got the monkey off his back in delivering the league leaders title by beating saints, does Lammy have it in him to lead this team to the grand final and then to be Champions?
It sounded on sky that there will be no announcement on Lammys future until after the grand final.
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| I'd go with near enough the squad that beat Saints. After that game who would you drop? Me. no one. Also with the size of the Hull FC outfit I'd have more than one prop on the bench. Greenwood won't play so Smith should play from the bench. Hastings is a good kicker but we may need more than one to switch play and move them around.
Big test here for Lam, he's not fared well in the three semis we played in previously under his coaching so he simply has to win this one.
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| you will be fav and rightly so, but if we can turn up like we did against wires then should be a good match, we have to match wigan for the first 20/25 min
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| Quote ="hull2524"you will be fav and rightly so, but if we can turn up like we did against wires then should be a good match, we have to match wigan for the first 20/25 min'"
To be fair id say you have to match Wigan for the first 80 minutes
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| Quote ="hull2524"you will be fav and rightly so, but if we can turn up like we did against wires then should be a good match, we have to match wigan for the first 20/25 min'"
You won that game against Wire by surviving their blitz in the first 15 minutes. It was a fantastic effort to keep them out and it both knocked Wires confidence and increased yours. It’ll be a good game on Thursday. It really feels like Hull have nothing to lose and the squad look in a good place under Andy Last.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"To be fair id say you have to match Wigan for the first 80 minutes'"
If the performance v Saints is anything to go by then definitely but if we go back to the “old” Wigan from earlier on in the season his assessment will be right
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"If the performance v Saints is anything to go by then definitely but if we go back to the “old” Wigan from earlier on in the season his assessment will be right'"
That's why I'd have Smith on the bench incase we need a plan b, by his own admittance O'Loughlin knows his body isn't up to it anymore and for me it's too much of a risk having someone in the 17 who might break down after 10 mins.
I think the starting 13 picks itself and it would be two props Smithies and Smith on the bench.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"That's why I'd have Smith on the bench incase we need a plan b, by his own admittance O'Loughlin knows his body isn't up to it anymore and for me it's too much of a risk having someone in the 17 who might break down after 10 mins.
I think the starting 13 picks itself and it would be two props Smithies and Smith on the bench.'"
Tough shout to leave Lockers out but ultimately it’s the team over any one person. I do however think Lockers will be involved on Thursday. Probably acting as one of those props/forwards on the bench
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| I doubt Lam will change his set up of four forwards on the bench now unless his hand is forced, so if it’s not then it would seem a really easy call to bring in Lockers for George Burgess. Lockers might not be about to long stints but I think he’d look in better physical shape than George sadly is even in another 10 years.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I doubt Lam will change his set up of four forwards on the bench now unless his hand is forced, so if it’s not then it would seem a really easy call to bring in Lockers for George Burgess. Lockers might not be about to long stints but I think he’d look in better physical shape than George sadly is even in another 10 years.'"
That seems to be the logical move for me. It’s not as if we’d miss much with GB not being in the squad.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I doubt Lam will change his set up of four forwards on the bench now unless his hand is forced, so if it’s not then it would seem a really easy call to bring in Lockers for George Burgess. Lockers might not be about to long stints but I think he’d look in better physical shape than George sadly is even in another 10 years.'"
George Burgess shouldn’t be anywhere near the 17
Unsure about SOL. Head says he shouldn’t play but heart wants him there.
I think Smith will be in the 17 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Lam takes a risk on SOL along with Clubb which worries me
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"George Burgess shouldn’t be anywhere near the 17
Unsure about SOL. Head says he shouldn’t play but heart wants him there.
I think Smith will be in the 17 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Lam takes a risk on SOL along with Clubb which worries me'"
I don’t think there’s a lad in the whole squad I wouldn’t put in ahead of George Burgess and that’s a sad state of affairs. We’re probably going to need 20/25 mins out of Lockers and I think he’s a great option to have on the bench. Guys like Byrne and Shorrocks may come in to the equation if Lockers wasn’t selected (which I can’t see being the case).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I don’t think there’s a lad in the whole squad I wouldn’t put in ahead of George Burgess and that’s a sad state of affairs. We’re probably going to need 20/25 mins out of Lockers and I think he’s a great option to have on the bench. Guys like Byrne and Shorrocks may come in to the equation if Lockers wasn’t selected (which I can’t see being the case).'"
I think the bench will be Flower Clubb Smithies and SoL
I wouldn’t pick Clubb but Lam will
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| I think Lockers on the bench would suit Lam's preferred approach in that he provides the extra forward option and at the same time gives cover in the halves. My concern would be more that he might start him which I think could backfire. He's had little game time and that showed in the CC semi, albeit in a game where no one played well. Coming on as the bench forward when the opposition are tiring would give us an extra point of attack, a fresh solid defender whilst minimising any "off the pace" type issues he may have.
Given that the other options (Burgess, Byrne, Clubb etc.) are equally off the pace I think playing him off the bench would add something in attack without unduly compromising in other areas.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I think the bench will be Flower Clubb Smithies and SoL
I wouldn’t pick Clubb but Lam will'"
That’s what I’m expecting.
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| We know Wigan are hard to beat, but we have to think if Rovers can do it ,so can we. I just hope Hull continue to turn up 100%,unlike earlier in the season. As long as it is a good game.
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| Quote ="barton baird"We know Wigan are hard to beat, [ubut we have to think if Rovers can do it ,so can we[/u.
I just hope Hull continue to turn up 100%,unlike earlier in the season. As long as it is a good game.'"
I know it was said tongue in cheek but your not wrong
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| I must admit that when the news came out a couple of months ago that 8/9 Hull FC players had been tested positive for Covid I thought that was their season over. I couldn't see them winning many games from then on. Obviously the playoff structure expanded from Top 4 to Top 6 which allowed them entry but at the same time they are going to be very difficult to beat. Fair play to them for that.
The pressure is all on us. League leaders, in good form, playing at the DW....etc!
However nothing is a given, look at last year getting beaten by Salford at home after putting in a poor performance against them.
If we play like we did against Saints then of course I fancy us, if we play like we did against Huddersfield it will be difficult to get the result. God forbid if we play anything like we did against Salford in the semi last year (or Leeds in the CC Cup Semi this year) then we will get beat. Forecast is showing dry weather Thursday which I think will suit us.
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