Talk about bkinkered. Ferres' technique was poor until he lifted Gildart up and crushed him for a second time, at that point it became malicious.

I can only assume you are suggesting that once a defender has made contact the attacker should just go down and not try to gain more yards or attempt to land on his front to get a quick play the ball. That's what the wrestling is all about, trying to speed it up in attack or slow it down in defence. May as well play tick and pass then. If you think it's only Wigan who practice wrestling you couldn't be more wrong.

You'd be very right to say I'm concerned about crusher tackles as I am about all forms of dangerous contact. In Magures first season we were bad for it and I hated it and spoke out about it then, I've not changed my mind since. Occasionally accidents happen whether it be poor technique or just an accident but Ferres' was neither. Out of all the forms of dangerous contact the Crusher is the worst imo simply because it has the potential to put someone in a wheelchair for life or possibly worse. On the very rare occasion I see one that I feel is intentional, then yes I'm worried.

It was a bad tackle and Ferres will get a ban. I can see why, with Cherry and white specs on you'd see it as a deliberate piece of foul play. Forgive me for having a touch of the blue and amber in my view that it MIGHT just have been P poor technique. Which ever, he deserves a spell on the side lines to reflect. You have an exciting crop of young tallent coming through, you also have the odd dirty, cheap shot merchant, as do most if not all teams. But whilst ever you employ the Union reject brother, you can't claim to be whiter than white.

P.S. I think SW deported himself brilliantly in the post match interview. Took defeat very well, showed some class in defeat.

1 pr1ck in particular springs to mind

In fairness to Wane he does give credit where its due and yes his reponse about the tackle was the correct one.

I hope and prefer to think that it wasnt malicous and just one of those things that you can put down to poor technique as you say.

He's so sly Albert it's untrue. It's the second week on the trot he's gone near players eyes for them to then lash out and give him a penalty (with Danny Brough picking up a ban for his trouble). Both weeks he knows exactly what he's doing but he keeps it just the right side of an eye gouge to stay clear of disciplinary trouble.

In a weird way it was good to see some ill feeling back in the Wigan/Leeds fixture last night. They were so poor it wasn't really there last year but they look decent this year and it was good to see them whipping up a bit of intensity against our half strength team. That bit of needle will help focus the minds of our proper team when (if) we get the injured lads back and play Leeds again. Brian McDermott said it was the best they'd played all year which is a pat on our back really. They'll have to play a dam site better to get over a Wigan side including 8 missing starters plus Gildart!

How nobody has ever put Ablett over the stand leaves me a little bewildered. He looks like a soft shoite and acts like a soft shoite so why he has never been slotted just leaves me baffled.
I'm ok with Ferres as long as what goes around comes around is in force in the next game between us. Hope Sutton chins him good and proper early doors.
Losing always hurts but with so many young kids playing I'm quite relaxed about last night which really is a problem with the current set up. A loss to Leeds should hurt but I dint give a fishes tit.

I said the same thing on my board about the aggression, love seeing it in a Leeds Wigan game, show the players care (not including Ferres in that btw)

Ablett is a bit of a snide but he didnt do anything illegal and got exactly what he wanted, Nuausala dropped the ball on his next carry cos he was too busy looking for Ablett, whilst he went over for the winner (he is having his best season in years fwiw)

Next game youll have bateman, Farrell and your skipper back and they will do similar and we will all boo them and complain on our board and the circle of RL life continues

I hope we have McIlorum, O'Loughlin and Bateman back for the next game v Leeds and see how those "tough guys" Ablett and Ferres go.
btw you probably will

Dont forget we will probably have Galloway back by then, who I believe Phil Gould once called 'the angriest man in rugby league', singleton as well who can hold is own (reffering more to his big hits than that cheap shot on bird before you say)

Ablett never claims to be a 'tough guy', as I said he is more of a snide and wind up merchant, more like Farrell than bateman

Ferres tweeted an apology btw, in case you didnt see

About as sincere as his marriage vows!!

Is o'loughlan a tough guy, can't say I've ever noticed.

Does O'Loughlin still play for Wigan?
Thought "Sicknote" had called it a day.

No hes still playing.
Still picking up grand final winners trophies.
Now picking up World Club champions trophies.

It can be difficult keeping up to date when you've spent all last season hiding under a stone somewhere, cut them some slack, eh?

Bad foul by Ferres, malicious and dangerous and I'm not about to defend it.

Is Ablett's niggling worth a mention in the same thread? Seems to trivialise Ferres' actions if anything.

Singleton got five games for blindsiding Bird; Ferres merits more IMO. I'd be well p***ed off if one of yours had tried a stunt like that. Hope Gildart's ok.

It got worse every time I watched it. What was he thinking?

They weren't under a stone mate, they were languishing in the middle 8s looking forward to an away game at Batley!!

Hasn't sarcasm hit the dark side of the hill yet?
By the way how many rings has he collected so far?
How's your bloke with the stiff neck getting on?

Absolutely no idea what that means about sarcasm?
If you were trying to be sarcastic then it's one of the worst attempts I've ever seen.
You said is "Sicknote" still playing, you thought he'd retired?
How is that sarcastic?

He has 3 grand final rings? Again not sure what your point is?

As for asking me about the bloke with the stiff neck, well I think that just sums you up perfectly.

It'll be interesting to see how your guy with the obvious biscuit addiction gets on at the judiciary this week.

Unfortunately I think he will be let off with a fairly lenient sentence. I've often criticised the RFL disciplinary as. Ring too soft and don't expect that to change anytime soon.

I think its pretty obvious what his point is

He hasnt got nearly as many rings as our captain... or former captain... or even Ian Kirke for that matter



(Actually do you even get rings in SL? I though you were given winners medals instead?)

not being funny here (but i guess i am) but 10 years ago or even less no one would have batted an eyelid at that tackle it would have just been seen as misfortune, not saying its right, but to say its malicious is way over the top, its careless and now illegal, sin binning probably been ok 5 years ago but with trial by social media factor probable a 1-2 game ban, and thats probably fair enough, but lets not make it out to be something worse than it is, if say kalum watkins or ryan hall made that tackle would there be the same outrage.

and as for Ablett and whatever he's called (the wrecking ball) its just part of the game hands in false head into face elbows on floor, always has been, and long may it continue, this is Rugby league after all.