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| The Tomkins tackle was odd, but it defused what could have blown up. I think a slap on the wrist, not a ban.
Ah Van, if he go sending off sufficient I really struggle to see that Smith would be banned. An attack to the head is rather more serious.
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| When it comes down to it i feel it was a combination of frustration and petulance. Wigan got away with murder for 60 minutes and then all of a sudden they get penalised for every minor transgression which they do not understand because what they got away with before was now deemed to be foul play.
Widnes level things up and Handbury goes to celebrate toward the crowd. He decodes to veer to another patch of crowd and realises Smith is in his way and they bump slightly, Handbury turns to congratulate his player and by this point Smith thinks Handbury purposely pushed into him so he turns round and in retaliation swings a kici at him. Has to be a red for me. If Ah Van see's red for a clumsy hit then Smith has to for deliberately making a foul play of that nature.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"When it comes down to it i feel it was a combination of frustration and petulance. Wigan got away with murder for 60 minutes and then all of a sudden they get penalised for every minor transgression which they do not understand because what they got away with before was now deemed to be foul play.
Widnes level things up and Handbury goes to celebrate toward the crowd. He decodes to veer to another patch of crowd and realises Smith is in his way and they bump slightly, Handbury turns to congratulate his player and by this point Smith thinks Handbury purposely pushed into him so he turns round and in retaliation swings a kici at him. Has to be a red for me. If Ah Van see's red for a clumsy hit then Smith has to for deliberately making a foul play of that nature.'"
Why would it make any difference if it was red or yellow for Smith?
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| Great to see that we are still a team of cheating, useless, thugs.... And there was me, worried that we had lost our way...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Why would it make any difference if it was red or yellow for Smith?'"
Because for one, has it actually been worked out what Smith was yellow carded for? There is a dispute as to whether it was for the original kick or for berating the touch judge while he was behind the sticks. If the latter then he hasn't even been penalised for the offence.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Because for one, has it actually been worked out what Smith was yellow carded for? There is a dispute as to whether it was for the original kick or for berating the touch judge while he was behind the sticks. If the latter then he hasn't even been penalised for the offence.'"
He was sent off for the remainder of the game and the incident will be looked at by the review panel, so it didn't matter if it was red or yellow did it?
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| Don't see what the fuss is about.
Smith was a tart and deserves a warning no more no less.
Joel T couldn't sort out a fight in a nursery. If you are going to go in at least do it properly.
It's a game of rugby for gods sake. I want aggression and plenty of it as long as it is controlled.
Someone said Wigan got away with murder for 60 minutes! Doing what?!
Widnes deservedly got a point and we need to get back to playing a more open type of game.
I don't like calling referees but Child's is petty, inconsistent and never seems to be in control of any game he officiates in. He's a poor referee for all sides. If all referees were like him I would cease watching league immediately.
My only concern is one raised by several people and that's Liam Farrell who had a poor game and who needs to get back to breaking the line on a regular basis and stop all this tough guy nonsense.
Those people who think that Wigan are the only team who play with aggression and have a coach who encourages aggression need to wise up that ALL teams have players, coaches etc who think, play and encourage others within the team to play aggressively.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He was sent off for the remainder of the game and the incident will be looked at by the review panel, so it didn't matter if it was red or yellow did it?'"
I hope that the review panel judge Smith's petulant kick irrespective of the fact that a ban could rule him out of the world series game,
IF he is found not guilty and doesn't receive a ban for the offense then that imo means that kicking an opponent is tolerated does it not?
Hypothetically speaking here,but should Smith get off "Scott free" with his kicking incident then what would happen if an opposing coach instructed all 13 of his players to take it in turn to kick Smith the next time he celebrates a Wigan score?
A crazy point i know but.........It's clearly not a sending off offense is it?
I have never been Wane's biggest fan but he seems hell bent on trying to make your side a team full of aggressive thugs and i believe that could prove to be both his and your downfall if it continues throughout the season
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He was sent off for the remainder of the game and the incident will be looked at by the review panel, so it didn't matter if it was red or yellow did it?'"
Well it does actually, as it raises the chance of him get him banned, because it negates the chance of him getting 'sending off sufficient .'
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| Christ, we thought our discipline was bad? I think Saints are going for a record tonight.
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| Few red faces amoungst the Saints fans commenting on our discipline after that half off rugby!
Awful discipline and a team warning followed by a sin bin. Even we couldn't match that last night.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Few red faces amoungst the Saints fans commenting on our discipline after that half off rugby!
Awful discipline and a team warning followed by a sin bin. Even we couldn't match that last night.'"
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| Didn't think it were possible but 7 Penalties on the bounce beats Wigans act last night, not often you outstrip Catalan in the penalty count.
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Didn't think it were possible but 7 Penalties on the bounce beats Wigans act last night, not often you outstrip Catalan in the penalty count.'"
I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player'
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player''"
Don't take the bait pal haha!
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| Quote ="LFC Saint"I agree being offside or stripping the ball is far more criminal that 'kicking a player''"
A stupid act of petulance from one player in comparison to a team being unable to play within the rules tackle after tackle to the point of the young lad having to be the fall guy and getting sin binned.
Masoe up to his usual tricks near the end also, winding people up then lashing out before quickly moving backwards and hiding behind his teammates. He looks to have modelled his game on Ryan Bailey.
Very poor discipline as pointed out. We were also poor in that department on Thursday night but the vast majority of Wigan fans have already condemned that.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Think people are going ott about Smith, it's a soft yellow at most'"
I agree, it's OTT for a little kick out. I know Matty and he's not like that but everyone snaps now and then.
The joel tomkins on phelps was more of a issue for me. He seems to run over to any little pushing match which can cause a brawl. I've no prob players running in to help mates when a fight breaks out but he's coming in at every opportunity.
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| Quote ="neil_w"RG I agree under the laws of the game contact to the head should be Red card, however I think I'm right in thinking it says deliberate contact and as a few of the sky team pointed out last night that was not deliberate. Poor technique yes but not deliberate, yellow card and on report for me. But if it is contact to the head = red card how come when Logan Tomkins I think hit Mellor around the head in the 2nd half it was not a red nor a yellow? The way he swung his arm he was always going to hit the back of Mellors neck and then ride up onto his head, if Mellor was facing that swinging arm it would have hit him right across his throat and gone up into his face and the Sky team and everyone would have being going ballistic but apparently just because he had his back to it and it hit the back of his neck first it is deemed OK pen to Widnes? I bet if Ah Van's tackle is slowed right down his arm hits Charnley's shoulder a micro second before the hand or forearm hits his chin will that be taken into account as you read every week at the disciplinary 'hit shoulder, or arm or back before contact with head is made, sending off sufficient or 1 game etc.'.
Smiths kick out was deliberate and Tomkins running around looking for someone to hit was a joke, Smith should have been straight red and Tomkins possible red but defo a yellow but nothing. TJ then tells ref Smith has been berating him behind the sticks so he bins him for a bit of lip not assault?
But like you say there were more incidents that were so obvious that just was not picked up by the ref and his team it shocking. Sean O on the first tackle had the Widnes player around the throat and it was just ignored second half the ref defo did his best to even up the penalty count IMO some right some wrong. Unfortunately this is just something all teams will have to put up with as some of the refs have no idea what they are doing.
I will be amazed if Smith gets anything for the deliberate kick on Hanbury, provoked or not that is way out of line and like someone says if he did it earlier in the game then he should be punished even if just 1 match. I expect them to come out with picture doesn't really show enough to make a decision no case to answer, Tomkins will not even be cited. But Mellor probably will be even though it was O'Carroll who pushed (nothing in it) SO.
Great game for viewers to get the season underway, another easy one next week up at Headingly.'"
I think it was a red. The was no intention but if a swinging arm connects on the jaw then it's a red.
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| How dare anyone criticise the saints.
They are beyond reproach.
If they want to change the 10 metre rule to a 4 metre rule during a game that's fine with me.
If Masoe wants to talk fight no problem because he really is a hard piece of lard so if he got to slapping someone it would be terrifying.
Look even St Keiron has had to have a go at referees for not letting them carry on with their spoiling tatics for gods sake.
Please Wigooners stop this nonsense and get back to revelling into watching continuos 3 man tackles that the heavenly Saints will never do
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"How dare anyone criticise the saints.
They are beyond reproach.
If they want to change the 10 metre rule to a 4 metre rule during a game that's fine with me.
If Masoe wants to talk fight no problem because he really is a hard piece of lard so if he got to slapping someone it would be terrifying.
Look even St Keiron has had to have a go at referees for not letting them carry on with their spoiling tatics for gods sake.
Please Wigooners stop this nonsense and get back to revelling into watching continuos 3 man tackles that the heavenly Saints will never do'"
Congrats! Your a early contender for pathetic idiotic post of the year and we only one week in!
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| Quote ="St pete"Congrats! Your a early contender for pathetic idiotic post of the year and we only one week in!
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I'm sorry do you usually win it?
I'm a naughty naughty boy and I promise not to dare to be sarcastic ever again.
Just off to burn my Wigan top and bobbing down to Langtree Park to worship in front of statue of St Keiron
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I'm sorry do you usually win it?
I'm a naughty naughty boy and I promise not to dare to be sarcastic ever again.
Just off to burn my Wigan top and bobbing down to Langtree Park to worship in front of statue of St Keiron'"
Glad to have you on board as a new fan. See you at WCC for a pint of saints gold ?
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| Quote ="St pete"Glad to have you on board as a new fan. See you at WCC for a pint of saints gold ?
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Is that cold Typhoo?
It's a sell out (which is great by the way) so I will just have to listen outside of the ground whilst I say my hail Mary's in front of her other son the heavenly St Keiron
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Is that cold Typhoo?
It's a sell out (which is great by the way) so I will just have to listen outside of the ground whilst I say my hail Mary's in front of her other son the heavenly St Keiron'"
It's King Keiron mate
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| Ohhh...I can't wait for Good Friday! Should be a cracker, less than a sell out would be a disappointment.
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