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| I saw Burgess was 20/1 to get at least a hatrick. People are saying he's playing injured though, so will Marshall play instead? He was 40/1. There is a chance Sutcliffe could play FB and Golding go onto the wing, so that would made the odds less favourable.
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| This is now a must win after saints win tonight.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"This is now a must win after saints win tonight.'"
Trust Cas to do us no favours!
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| Yeah,it's not just the 2 points for saints,it's the confidence it will give them going forward.I have them finishing in the top 4 and bringing all the momentum into the play offs.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Yeah,it's not just the 2 points for saints,it's the confidence it will give them going forward.I have them finishing in the top 4 and bringing all the momentum into the play offs.'"
I thought they would really kick-on after destroying Hull but they stuttered, if they continue this form then with the obvious boost of Ben Barba, they have to be favourites to make the GF and likely win it...
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| I feel dirty but I had £20 on Saints to win the GF last week at 12/1 and they're a real chance. There's still some dam awful players in their team but the new coach is getting the best out of everyone and that defensive effort was huge last night.
I think Cas are finding out also that they may need to reign in a few boasts. The loss of only a couple of players has had an impact.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I feel dirty but I had £20 on Saints to win the GF last week at 12/1 and they're a real chance. There's still some dam awful players in their team but the new coach is getting the best out of everyone and that defensive effort was huge last night.
I think Cas are finding out also that they may need to reign in a few boasts. The loss of only a couple of players has had an impact.'"
Cas still controlled the majority of the game and it took a monumental defensive effort from saints to stop them,I certainly wouldn't be panicking if I was a cas fan,maybe slightly with their defence but that's it.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"Cas still controlled the majority of the game and it took a monumental defensive effort from saints to stop them,I certainly wouldn't be panicking if I was a cas fan,maybe slightly with their defence but that's it.'"
Mainly agree, but there was a definite shift in attitude yesterday which looks like they might be on the right track.
I've not been worried about saints for years, ultimately because they've been soft, especially in big games. One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that, but I'm definitely more concerned about them now than I have been for a long time (even when they fluked the GF!)
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| Team for tonight, same starting line up as the semi, Faz and Ganson replacing Joel and Powell on bench.
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| Quote ="Cherry_&_White"Mainly agree, but there was a definite shift in attitude yesterday which looks like they might be on the right track.
I've not been worried about saints for years, ultimately because they've been soft, especially in big games. One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that, but I'm definitely more concerned about them now than I have been for a long time (even when they fluked the GF!)'"
The thing is we are not going to be able to stop them which makes it more frustrating. I cannot see us making the top 4 now,winning 6 out of 7 might not be enough and backing up the cup final away at saints will be such a tough task. I would say if we lose tonight we should look at resting and rotating the next couple of weeks,any slight injuries and players should be rested.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"The thing is we are not going to be able to stop them which makes it more frustrating. I cannot see us making the top 4 now,winning 6 out of 7 might not be enough and backing up the cup final away at saints will be such a tough task. I would say if we lose tonight we should look at resting and rotating the next couple of weeks,any slight injuries and players should be rested.'"
Sent a txt to a mate last night watching the Cas game, if Wigan dont win tonight then I would be using the next two games as Cup Final prep, as you posted playing Saints away after the cup final would be a tough ask. The cup break is great for the other six teams in the 8's.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I feel dirty but I had £20 on Saints to win the GF last week at 12/1 '"
Shrewd move. They have as good a chance as anyone, I reckon.
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| Brilliant from Sam for the first try and Davies' stock rises by the week! Incredible balance and acceleration from him there.
We're on top now need to keep our discipline and we'll ruin them.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Brilliant from Sam for the first try and Davies' stock rises by the week! Incredible balance and acceleration from him there.
We're on top now need to keep our discipline and we'll ruin them.'"
They look dangerous near our line,like you said it's gonna be the team who gives away the least pens that wins this. Our attack looks in a much better place than it did a few weeks back.
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| At the game and not sure if it's coming coming over on TV but Faz is way way off full fitness. That's the worst half of rugby I've seen the lad play. He just looks like his mind is on his knee and nothing has gone right.
Hopefully he'll score the winner now.
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"They look dangerous near our line,like you said it's gonna be the team who gives away the least pens that wins this. Our attack looks in a much better place than it did a few weeks back.'"
Yea they do to be fair, they seem to be hitting gaps in our line every time someone takes it in. I like the way Leeds play a lot. They run a lot of dynamic lines and their offloads are causing us havoc. But I do feel if we can remember how to keep hold of the ball in the second half and keep the penalties to a minimum, then we'll win this comfortably.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"At the game and not sure if it's coming coming over on TV but Faz is way way off full fitness. That's the worst half of rugby I've seen the lad play. He just looks like his mind is on his knee and nothing has gone right.
Hopefully he'll score the winner now.'"
Yep. A couple forward passes and knock-ons and Stevie Ward did him for his try. But he dumped Maguire on his ars€ so that makes up for it a bit.
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| Defending like Gelling just showed and we have no chance.
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| And Sam's following up his best game this season with his worst.
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| Every try this half has been through Gelling.
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| Really poor performance on the back of a great cup win. Sums up the Wane era really.
Although I've bought my ticket, if it means the end of Wane I'd happily see us lose at Wembley in a few weeks time. We need a clear out.
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| Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.'"
I like him but his defence has been woeful tonight.The team performance in that second half was shocking and it's all about one game now.
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| Quote ="RichieS"Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.'"
Gelling wouldn't get a game at Judes..
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| He is surrounded by great tacklers on the left...he has Bateman, Davies and TL for support yet still seems to fall off tackles and simply go missing!
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