Come on one min he is quality and when he has an off game he is a liability.

Make your minds up.

Hock

jogg on.

No thanks!

Come on though make your minds up. One min you all creaming yourselfs over him next he is crap

I can't remember the last thread on here when its said hock was crap.

It's pretty much sunk in now that he will have a game or two where things won't come off, offloads going astray etc etc. But that come with the player, if he didnt try these things then he wouldnt win us the rest when they do come off.

There was a thread a bit a go when quite a few were saying get rid his is a liability etc.

I am not saying he is crap as on his day he can be very good but when he has an off day he is really bad. Bit like Latu in that way

I don't disagree that that used to be a lot of peoples views, but i'd say in the last season or two he's become much more consistent, cutting out the errors and hence there's been hardly any hock bashers.

You mean when Latu was up for it but all players got in way so it did not boil over.

I think Sam dropped a load

I have seen Latu up town always trying the bully boy tactics when smashed whipping the shirt off showing his tats, loud bark no bite when anyone gives him it back from what i have seen.....mind you were he a real man he would not be in sl anyway.

I have seen plenty of players up town thinking they are it after a few. But he certianly don't bully no one

Wayne Godwin the worst, he made him self out to be a right tw[iat[/i

Why would he not be playing SL if he was a "real hard man"

Why did he leave the NRL?

because he wouldnt have been banned from NRL for beating up a woman???

He was banned, as you well know!

And I can't believe you judge Latu after just one night out when you saw him.

I don't like what he did but he did not beat a woman up. He give her a slap. It's not right I know as I don't like people who do things like that but everyone deserves a 2nd chance in life

If only it was one night.



Where i come from everyone is deserving of a second chance apart from a small section of the community, women beaters is one, and i have certainly never know a real hard man knock a woman about.

And there is quality players like Michael Crocker and Greg Eastwood who cant come over here because of petty crimes such as driving too fast but Latu can play over here after physically assualting a women. Yes I know the rule of visas have only recently got that strict but surely Latu should be sent back? or any other none english players who have previous criminal records.

Ok then was it 2?.. He is a decent guy off the pitch, as are most rugby players. But after a few drinks people change.

I do agree with you but everyone deserves a 2nd chance but no 3rd. People learn from ther emistakes and I am sure he will be a better person from it.

Can't believe they wont let him over it's a joke! Although Bird should not be alowed to play in England IMO. but hey ho!

Surley Pryce is just as bad as Latu standing there watching a women get pushed about? If what reported was the truth.......

Well thats where me and you differ, fair enough but its a topic we will never agree on so lets leave it there.

I hardly get out in Wakefield anymore, but on 3 or 4 occasions i have seen him have to be escorted away by the police with his shirt off bloodied after giving it the big I AM. He must save them for every time i am out though.

I have seen many players take there tops off in clubs, why they do it I don't have a clue. Henderson once did it and stood like a statue for 10mins with his hand in the air.

Some of them act like real nobs on nights out, and yeah some Wakey players will but Godwin took the pi[iss[/i

personalities come into play on and off field. family game, hmmmm?

If you are trying to get people to deffend Pryce on a Wigan forum well...you have more chance of getting a valid response on a poll about Hock and "Tony" on a Wakefield forum.

They do bit it's not only Latu who has been in bother.

Not wanting anyone to defend Pryce, just saying he is just as bad. How anyone could watch a women get pushed abotu but again that is if the allegations made were true. have to be careful what you say these days.

Think we are moving off the point...lets put a "tony" vs hock thread on the Wigan board followed by a Rads v Wellens Faz v Scully.

After today the results would be more valid than a "tony" v Hock thread on a Trinity board.