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| At no point does she say he was racially abused at Wigan or even England. Australia is a terribly racist country though so maybe she’s alluding to treatment he’s received over his career. Only last week Penrith fans aimed racist comments at Gerg Inglais.
It’s obvious they didn’t enjoy it in England and at Wigan and she’d perhaps have been wiser to bite her tongue a little on those comments. You never know what’s waiting around the corner and it could come back to bite her.
Regarding everything else, it would be hard to sit there and hear/read people making disparaging remarks about your spouse. I have an element of pity with her on this.
FPN has had a low point at Wigan and seems to be happier and getting back on track. That is how I read her post anyway.
All in all, a storm in a teacup.
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| the girl has form for it, she said the same kind of thing when he signed FOR Wigan about his previous club!
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| Her comment is clearly accusing somebody of racism.
‘I’ve seen him racially discriminated by staff & called terrible names due to his appearance.’
It’s highly likely the comments refer to his time at Wigan although she doesn’t say that.
I’m in 100% agreement with Jukesays on this. Regardless of how he played, what he earned etc, there is absolutely no place for racism in 2018. We need to understand that it may not have been raised at the time through fear or because they didn’t feel it was a safe enough environment to do so. We simply don’t know.
What we do know is that she has made a very serious accusation about somebody and I hope the club do come out with some kind of comment to distance itself and refute the allegations.
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| I'm not saying Frank-Paul hasn't been racially abused in his life (though the last time I heard racism at Wigan was when it was aimed at Hanley and Gill by visiting fans), but the most obvious problem he had with his last two clubs was that he didn't play well for either of them.
They always say the best form of defence is attack.
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| Having read her comments I read it to mean he she says has experienced racial abuse and forced to play with injuries at some point in his career without specifying where.
She then goes on to say she had a terrible experience over here which is fair enough if that’s her opinion however going on to say in a terrible country at a terrible club is a bit off imo.
This country has its flaws like any other but for the most part, compared to many other places it’s not too bad. As for being a terrible club why do so many former players re-sign for us if that’s the case?
Her comments have left me with little doubt that she is the reason he wanted to leave and probably the reason for what is considered to be substandard performances whilst at Wigan.
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| Amazed the overrated pudding is getting a gig at the roosters .
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| Quote ="Towns88"Amazed the overrated pudding is getting a gig at the roosters .'"
Me too. Be interesting too how he goes in first-grade.
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| Pretty sure he started from the bench today v Bulldogs.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"
I’m in 100% agreement with Jukesays on this. Regardless of how he played, what he earned etc, there is absolutely no place for racism in 2018. We need to understand that it may not have been raised at the time through fear or because they didn’t feel it was a safe enough environment to do so. We simply don’t know.'"
I agree with this in particular the bit about why it might not have been raised at the time. It's all very well saying they should have raised the alleged racism but that is easy thing for those who have not been victims to say. It's also a bit of a cop out because it's like making it out it's FPN's own fault he was allegedly racially abused because he didn't report it. There is even a term flor this, it's Victim Blaming. Expecting victims to be the pro active ones and go out of their way to do so is often an excuse for inaction on the part of those who can deal with the issue.
Quote What we do know is that she has made a very serious accusation about somebody and I hope the club do come out with some kind of comment to distance itself and refute the allegations.'"
They can't just refute them without investigating them first so it's whether the club thinks this is something it needs to look into or not.
As to FPN and him being criticised for his performances I think he did get an unfair amount of stick. I think he was playing as Wane asked him to and he also was an ever present in an injury hit side. Perhaps the club (and all clubs) could be a bit more aware that these days criticism is far more visible due to social media so players and their relatives will see it far more. The negative comments are not just made down the pub in private after a match but are public. Last season Gildarts Dad was on the Facebook A&L group getting upset about comments on his son. This being so if a player is being slagged off for doing what the coach wants (for example) a bit of praise or comment might clue the fans in a bit more. That said all players are going to have stinkers every now and again and if they do, they can't expect people not to comment. If Mrs FPN heard him being slagged off at games he's in good company. Years ago a chap who sat near me spent the entire 80 minutes of every game slagging off Andy Farrell. It's what happens at matches and always has.
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| No statement yet, then, I wonder if the club are taking any action on this behind the scenes?
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| Quote ="moto748"No statement yet, then, I wonder if the club are taking any action on this behind the scenes?'"
Is there anything to take legal action over? The only thing she said directly against the club is that we are terrible
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| Quote ="Trainman"Is there anything to take legal action over? The only thing she said directly against the club is that we are terrible'"
There's a definite argument to be said that even if she isn't accusing Wigan of those things, Wigan are the only club that can be identified (because we're the only UK club he's played for) and so it's an association. If I was Wigan I'd be at least having her change her words up to differentiate between a club she is accusing of racism and one she is simply stating terrible.
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| Well, quite. I wasn't suggesting 'legal action' as such, but thought there might be some kind of statement.
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| Quote ="moto748"Well, quite. I wasn't suggesting 'legal action' as such, but thought there might be some kind of statement.'"
Let sleeping dogs lie perhaps,the better course of action for my money why respond if you have nothing to say?
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| There is a newspaper article from aus now doing the rounds of frank him self slagging the club off, saying we didn’t care about his family when he wanted to leave. The club need to respond.
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| Yes I’ve just seen the article looks like the Mrs lit the blue touch paper and stood well back
We will see if they respond though I doubt it somehow,I’ll say this though why keep a player as unhappy as he was?cant fathom it at all and balls to having a contract they’re fairly worthless if a player wants out,get rid.
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| It’s interesting where he says I know the truth and I’ve got proof. Proof of what exactly? That his family didn’t want to be here and he wanted to go home? Not really headline news.
I’m sure he would have got release a lot earlier if it wasn’t for last years injury crisis. As he said he was under contract, also as he said he could have retired so why didn’t he? Money one presumes.
I take this as him spitting his dummy out of the pram because he couldn’t get what he wanted when he wanted it.
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| His Mrs is a right mixer.
That story is such a non-event now. The allegations of racism aside. They've both had a paddy because they wanted everything and a bag to put it in. Clearly used us as a plan B when he couldn't get a better deal in the NRL and obviously thought he could just walk away from any contract. He was a flat track bully on the pitch and went missing in hard games and it's echoed with his attitude here.
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Let's talk about why over Christmas he agreed terms with semi-pro team Western Suburbs without the knowledge of his current (but terrible) club.
www.kiwileaguecentral.com/latest ... e-unknown/
Let's put the boot on the other foot and think what would have happened had Wigan sold "The wrecking ball" to another club without his knowledge whilst under contract. Can you imagine the furore?
I just thank christ he's gone, he didnt want to be here and for me was a crap signing anyway...wrecking ball my ar$e! We should ask for a refund.....
....and his missus is a crank!
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Let's talk about why over Christmas he agreed terms with semi-pro team Western Suburbs without the knowledge of his current (but terrible) club.
www.kiwileaguecentral.com/latest ... e-unknown/
Let's put the boot on the other foot and think what would have happened had Wigan sold "The wrecking ball" to another club without his knowledge whilst under contract. Can you imagine the furore?
I just thank christ he's gone, he didnt want to be here and for me was a crap signing anyway...wrecking ball my ar$e! We should ask for a refund.....
....and his missus is a crank!
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| You’ve got to love the bloke. This guy was talking about how Wigan was his new family during his time here.
The useless pudding couldn’t be bothered being here because it was probably harder work then the retirement home I’m sure he envisaged. It took the motivation of a potential move home to help him get rid of his beer belly (aka his Wigan holiday weight).
Hope he enjoys his spell in the Roosters reserves.
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| He’s happy. We’re happy. Him and his wife should just move on.
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| Well, I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Wigan, but I just find all this hard to believe. I've been coming to our games at your place since the mid 80's (still miss coming to Central Park now to be honest) and have never heard any racial abuse and the club has always seemed, from an outsider point of view, to value and look after it's players. How he can moan about a club 'playing hardball' releasing him from a contract that he signed is laughable anyway. The club have every right to do what they want - he signed the thing!
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| Quote ="caslad75"Well, I'm not exactly the biggest fan of Wigan, but I just find all this hard to believe.[u I've been coming to our games at your place since the mid 80's (still miss coming to Central Park now to be honest) and have never heard any racial abuse[/u and the club has always seemed, from an outsider point of view, to value and look after it's players. How he can moan about a club 'playing hardball' releasing him from a contract that he signed is laughable anyway. The club have every right to do what they want - he signed the thing!'"
Neither has anyone else.
I think we're all waiting with interest for some clarification from the person who first made the accusation.
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| Racism seems a bit of a stretch given our history with players of all colours and creeds dating back a long, long time. You can never account for individuals, of course, but to level an accusation of racism at the club itself seems, frankly (pun intended), bizarre!
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