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| Quote ="Adamjk"Echoing what 'talulah' has already said, it's a lot easier for the likes of Wigan, Leeds, Saints etc to attract youngsters, given the fact that they're bigger clubs with more success. I'd also hazard a guess that the difference in size of the pool of local players to choose from with these clubs is monumental when comparing to Salford due to the difference in popularity of the game and participation levels in the areas. Obviously it's something that needs to be rectified but it's difficult to compare the two because it's hardly a level playing field.'"
Totally fair comment but it's exactly why Salford's Super League status should be considered. It's not as though Salford are a new club in an area that has never had a Rugby League presence.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Ratchford a Wiganer, is Sidlow from Widnes'"
Sidlow did sign from Widnes, but is a Wiganer - he's from Whelley
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| Tbf Salford do produce players but they get signed by other teams eg. Myler.
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| Quote ="hula89"Tbf Salford do produce players but they get signed by other teams eg. Myler.'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Oh dear.'"
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| Quote ="hula89"Tbf Salford do produce players but they get signed by other teams eg. Myler.'"
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| Quote ="hula89"Tbf Salford do produce players but they get signed by other teams eg. Myler.'"
and Coley
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"and Coley'"
Oh dear, oh dear
Salford signed Myler from Widnes and Coley from Swinton.
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| I think this is all great news for Salford. I hope they can get a good team together going into thier new ground and they can challenge for honours. Its always goona be tough on the doorstep of the worlds biggest football club
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| Quote ="Dougy"I think this is all great news for Salford. I hope they can get a good team together going into thier new ground and they can challenge for honours. Its always goona be tough on the doorstep of the worlds biggest football club'"
Accrington Stanley?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Accrington Stanley?'"
Who are they?
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| Quote ="hula89"Theres a Salford fan at uni and they take credit for coley too so i never questioned it. Tbh they are taking the Michael even their own fans (season ticket holder too) didnt know he was from Widnes. I also have a cousin who attends uni in salford and the pubs dont show rl even on request'"
I go to uni in Manchester and virtually everywhere shows RL on request, just so long as there's no football on. I'd advise your cousin to go into the city centre to watch games.
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| Possibley one of the most popular players to play for Wigan in the last decade and during the dark dark days of the Millward regime was probably the only player capable of lifting the supporters with his famous charges down the field.
Unfortunatley his defence and lack of game time was sometimes cruelly exposed by the opposition no more so than the Challenge Cup semi final defeat against Warrington last season. It was the first time that i saw Wigan supporters genuinley pleading with Brian Noble not to let Feka back onto the field as it was obvious that Warrington were targeting him.
There was an interview with Micheal Maguire following the signings of Hoffman, Finch and Lima when Madge commented that Jeff Lima is very proud of his fitness levels and that comment really stuck in my mind as it is obvious from the way we have played this season how important fitness is to Maguire.
Good luck to him at Salford, it will be very strange seeing him play for another club in 2011.
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| Quote ="Dougy"I think this is all great news for Salford. I hope they can get a good team together going into thier new ground and they can challenge for honours. Its always goona be tough on the doorstep of the worlds biggest football club'"
Have Salford relocated??????????????????
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| Quote ="ABP'"Oh dear, oh dear
Salford signed Myler from Widnes and Coley from Swinton.'"
You seem have a beef about Salford ? Why ?
Correct about Myler & Coley can name plenty others , but alot of your legendary players were poached from other clubs in similar fashion , Lydon - Gregory, Offiah ( Widnes ) Gill, Handley ( Bradford ) Jason Robinson ( Hunslet ).
R.L.have always struggled for recognition next to a city dominated by football.
and the players that do appear in the past have gone go to other RL clubs. Adrian Morley & Kallum Watkins ( Leeds ) -Betts ( Wigan).
there has been alot of work been done in the past few years to redress this with Alan Hunte with the academy , and work is being done to build awareness in Salford & Manchester in Schools & amatuer level. Sure this will pay dividends given time.
Good luck in the play-offs .
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| Quote ="middleman"You seem have a beef about Salford ? Why ?
Correct about Myler & Coley can name plenty others , but alot of your legendary players were poached from other clubs in similar fashion , Lydon - Gregory, Offiah ( Widnes ) Gill, Handley ( Bradford ) Jason Robinson ( Hunslet ).
R.L.have always struggled for recognition next to a city dominated by football.
and the players that do appear in the past have gone go to other RL clubs. Adrian Morley & Kallum Watkins ( Leeds ) -Betts ( Wigan).
there has been alot of work been done in the past few years to redress this with Alan Hunte with the academy , and work is being done to build awareness in Salford & Manchester in Schools & amatuer level. Sure this will pay dividends given time.
Good luck in the play-offs .'"
We poached those players yes. But we have always maintained one of, if not the best youth policy in Rugby League so there's no reason to criticise Wigan for making those signings.
I've no beef with Salford what so ever, the same could be said of a couple of other Super League clubs. It's fustrating when Wigan get criticized for signing overseas players when they have a large number of home grown players within the squad. Salford are a perfect example of a club that seems to evade criticism when signing a clutch of foreign players (some of which out of favour with current SL clubs!) without promoting no/next to no youth, and it should be taken into consideration when franchise applictations are being discussed. Don't you agree?
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He does or they do? I don't know one Salford fan who thinks he came from out youth system to be honest.
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| Quote ="ABP'"We poached those players yes. But we have always maintained one of, if not the best youth policy in Rugby League so there's no reason to criticise Wigan for making those signings.
I've no beef with Salford what so ever, the same could be said of a couple of other Super League clubs. It's fustrating when Wigan get criticized for signing overseas players when they have a large number of home grown players within the squad. Salford are a perfect example of a club that seems to evade criticism when signing a clutch of foreign players (some of which out of favour with current SL clubs!) without promoting no/next to no youth, and it should be taken into consideration when franchise applictations are being discussed. Don't you agree?'"
Absolutely, we are going to be considered by many as obvious candidates to lose our franchise, if so I'd have no compliants if we really are proven the worst offenders.
I've never criticised any teams recruitment , and a ' clutch of foreign players ' can apply to a majority of current SL sides . All I know is the youth we have promoted in the past couple years have struggled for form & confidence as they need better / experienced players alongside them it's all about getting the balnce right and putting a competitive team on the field to build support at the same time .
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| Quote ="middleman"Absolutely, we are going to be considered by many as obvious candidates to lose our franchise, if so I'd have no compliants if we really are proven the worst offenders.
I've never criticised any teams recruitment , and a ' clutch of foreign players ' can apply to a majority of current SL sides . All I know is the youth we have promoted in the past couple years have struggled for form & confidence as they need better / experienced players alongside them it's all about getting the balnce right and putting a competitive team on the field to build support at the same time .'"
I don't disagree with any of that.
Like I say, the reason of my post and using Salford as example is mainly aimed towards anti-Wigan critics on nationwide Rugby League TV and radio broadcasts and on messageboards such as RLFANS.
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| Quote ="Red-4-life"He does or they do? I don't know one Salford fan who thinks he came from out youth system to be honest.'"
I meant him I dont know any other Salford fans so I couldnt possibly label you all.
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| Quote ="ABP'"I don't disagree with any of that.
Like I say, the reason of my post and using Salford as example is mainly aimed towards anti-Wigan critics on nationwide Rugby League TV and radio broadcasts and on messageboards such as RLFANS.'"
I understand your frustation mate.
You have a similar number of overseas players to most other teams in SL, but being Wigan, aka probably the most successful club in British RL ever, you are one of rugby leagues most hated clubs so people are going to snipe. At least you guys are bringing over some quality players and generally always have done.
You need to pick your battles more wisely, as currently it isn't all Wigan against the world. Good luck in the play-offs, hope you win the Grand Final.
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