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Don't know about anyone else's but here are mine:

Out of Europe: Yep
Keep the pound: yep
Keep Grammar schools & build more: yep
scrap OFSTED: yep
support nuclear energy: yep
More council houses: yep
"no home, no visa" for immigrants: yep
oppose ID cards: yep
raise income tax threshold: yep
end multiculturalism: yep
freeze permanent immigration: yep
more beat policing: yep
no NHS cuts: yep


There are some policies I disagree with, admittedly, but there are far more that I agree with.

Add to that



Build more prisons


Double the police force


Deport foreign criminals and extremists


St Georges day a public holiday and a commonwealth day to celebrate British history


British Benefits for British citizens only and introduce Workfare community projects for those on benefits


Invest extra £3 billion a year on transport from EU savings


Stop excessive parking charges and speed cameras


Make foreign lorries pay to use our roads


Invest in new high-speed 200mph rail lines


Reopen closed railways where needed


End mass uncontrolled and unlimited immigration


Bring back school discipline


Keep British companies under British control not selling every British company we can so they will take production overseas as soon as they have been sold eg Cadbury, British Energy sold to EDF nergy (French firm) who charge us what they want as they can't do that in France, Scottish & Newcastle breweries sold to Carlsberg and Heineken in a joint bid worth nearly £8bn in 2008, Scottish Power sold to Spain's Iberdrola for £11.6bn in 2007, airports operator BAA bought by Ferrovial, the Spanish construction conglomerate for £10bn, Thames Water sold to German utility RWE for £5bn in 2006, Pilkington Glass sold to NSG of Japan for nearly £2bn in 2006, P&O sold to Dubai Ports World for £3.3bn in 2005, Abbey National bank bought by Spain's Santander in 2004 for £8.5bn.

Under labour we have sold the family silver and also our gold reserves at a low price and not long after gold prices shoot through the roof losing 2 billion in doing so.

I don't want to join the euro, scrap the eurofighter or trident nuclear deterent either.

Always voted Labour as it was drilled into me as it's a famliy thing.

When I sit down and read through all the manifestos UKIP are the party I agree most with their policies.

You have read through [iall[/i the manifestos?
The problem with UKIP, as has been pointed out by many political analysists, is that they have no way of funding their plans. They would have to borrow from left, right and centre to get anywhere near the budget they'd require to fulfil their manifesto. Maybe I'm wrong, but the last thing we need at the moment is to be asking the IMF for handouts. For those in doubt I direct you to Greece.

Greece is royally knackered, but in my opinion it isn't the biggest problem - it's the rest of the Mediterranean economies. Then there's us, Britain, which has a similar problem with its public debt, and will have to implement heavy economical measures as well.

Yes a plan has been put forward to 'rescue' Greece but this now has to be voted upon by both cabinets and Parliaments in several nations, Germany included.
Some will have to sell more debt to fund this and they're already up the swanny.
Oh, and this does nothing about Spain and Portugal, which are next, while the cash pile that can be assembled for these sorts of things is already being raided. So by the time someone like UKIP got in and started to put their plans into practice there probably won't be much of the pie left for anyone wanting a bit extra.

I wouldn't be that bothered if Labour stayed in or the Tories got in but I won't be voting for them, I would be gutted if the Lib Dems got in as they would want us to join the euro.

If we did our interest rates wouldn't be set by the Bank of Englands monetary policy comitee they would be set by the EU so we wouldn't have control. That's why Greece, Spain and Portugal are all up shi'ite creek now as their interest rates are set the same a France and Germanys and they can't keep up with them. Whereas the Bank of England have slashes interest rates down to 0.5% to get us spending and buying houses etc we wouldn't be able to do that if we were in the euro and the lib dems want us to join the euro so just for that reason alone, I'm out.

I know what you mean about funding the said policies as Nigel Farage was on Jeremy Vine on Radio 2

and was questioned on this. He said he would create 1 million manufacturing jobs by cutting out the 'quangos' but it would taker a good few years to do so.

Some of their policies are good, some aren't but the same can be said about all the parties, even the Tories manifesto isn't so bad but I couldn't bring myself to vote for them.

They propose to fund it with huge cuts in public sector spending reducing spending levels to those of 1997. They reckon they would get rid of 2 million public sector workers. This on top of the obvious leaving the EU and scrapping a lot of quangos. Maybe not popular but at least they're being honest unlike the main three parties.

I'm voting UKIP this time at the general election (not that it makes a difference here as Labour have held Wigan since 191icon_cool.gif. I used to vote Tory but Cameron isn't one. I'll also be voting for the Independent Conservative Gareth Fairhurst in the local election as I feel he has done a good job in making the voices of Wigan central heard.

How much would making two million under contract public sector workers redundant cost?
How would leaving the EU raise funds? How much money do we receive annually from 'Brussels'?

Last year we made a net contribution to the EU of just over £6 billion (would have been less if Blair didn't give our rebate away). Not much given the size of the debt but it's a start.

The manifesto doesn't specify how much money we would save making so many people redundant but it doesn't take a great mathmetician to calculate it would be billions even taking into account the cost of making them redundant and in a worst case scenario they all ended up claiming benefits. Better to pay someone unemployment benefit than an annual salary of say £20k for a job that isn't required.

You'd be staggered how much redundancies actually cost, and you're neglecting the massive knock on effect to the overall economy of 2 MILLION additional people on benefits, no tax income, no spending power........

We quite simply could not as a nation either afford the cost of the initial spend (redundancy payouts etc) or the effect on the economy (it would kill it stone dead). The headline grabbers of 'but we'll create 1 million manufacturing jobs' are quite simply hot air imo, as companies like mine will STILL do all their manufacturing overseas.

The easiest and most efficient way to save money would be to cut none necessary benefits imo. I’m sick of the people living off the system and abusing it as they are too lazy to work but the worst part of it is that we let them do it. If these people are well enough to go to the pub instead of working then they are well enough to work imo.

I’d also adopt a policy of social ownership i.e. if you cause the problem then it’s up to you to pay for the solution. How much money must be spent a year on treating idiots who get steaming at the weekend and then kick off and need hospital treatment? How much money must be spent on drug treatment centres or alcohol treatment centres? Why should we look after the smack heads and alcoholics? They made the mess of their lives and they should be forced to pay for treatment and if they can’t afford it then sadly it’s tough as money is better spent on people who deserve it.

I know that won’t sit well with some but I can’t see why normal people have to get penalised or pay for the dregs of society. I’ve gone out and got smashed like 90% of the population of Britain but I’ve never needed hospital treatment after it and to be honest if I did kick off maybe I should be forced to pay some of the cost of my actions or pay for the strain I’ve put on the health service and Police.

I’m quite liberal in terms of letting people do what they want i.e. binge drinking or taking drugs but the 2nd they can’t handle it or cross the line then I believe the system should come down hard on them and they should be forced to pay for the consequences of their actions

I realise this won’t save billions but it would be a dam good start imo.

So keeping these 2 million people employed would cost less than making them redundant in the long-term?

I agree on the manufacturing front. Something drastic needs to happen. I can see a scenario where people are going to have to start working for less pay in order for us to compete on the global market.

Surely someone must know this mon:



Jeff Darbyshire, 41 fork lift truck driver from Wigan.

He was on Britain's got Talent on Saturday night, well worth a watch:

Youtube - search 'Jeff Darbyshire'

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I agree with the sentiment but where do you draw the line? Obesity is as big a strain on the NHS as anything else. Should we charge fatties that shove pies down their throats and cba getting off their backsides?

Yes imo although it isn’t as extreme as drug use, someone breaking their leg pi3$ed up or hand after kicking off.

You summed it up well in your last sentence with all the fatties who can’t be d getting off their line. It’s all about attitude I guess and taking responsibility for your actions and own body. I’ve personally put a bit of weight on this winter and now I’m trying to eat well and I’m biking to work to try and at least curb it a little. Nothing drastic but I know that it’s gonna affect my health in the long run and if I do some of the little things it might help in the long run.

Let’s face it we all know when we are unfit and the impacts it has on our health as well. If you can’t be d to do anything about it when you have the chance you shouldn’t expect doctors to jump through hoops to help you when it becomes such a problem that you can’t deal with it yourself.

Fair enough if you’re a little overweight and the doctor says you need to do this or that or it will have such an effect on your health that’s not a major strain but when they don’t take notice or implement what the doctors say is the time they should be cut off.

I'm no doctor but more fruit, vegetables, exercise and less cake sounds good to me.

Leave them alone as they harmless.

Personally I see the solution as a brand new benefit - The Burdon Benefit.

The burden benefit would be for people like myself who don’t want to work and are clogging up the job centre resources. Just think how much money is spent on people trying to get them to work via new deal especially. You can get sent to a place like A4E and they get paid for taking you on.

In fact the owner of A4E has made millions on the back of the unemployed who don’t want to work by forcing them to sit in detention centres up and down the country. The job centre help and resources is going to all the wrong people like me.

Give us a benefit that doesn’t mean trailing to the job centre then so much money can be saved. They won’t be as many job centres and you won’t need thieving places like A4E..



How much money must be spent on trying to keep Britain healthy?

Sports fields are better off been sold to property developers so that the money from the sale can go towards paying debt. PE teachers should be dropped from the educational system and be replaced with lessons about the Home Office.

Interesting notions; if we did all that then we can bring back National Service for the hefty wasters so they can be Cannon Fodder/Soldiers in Afghanistan etc.

Granted I now have an image of you being a little like this guy:

If it was my choice we’d do what Cyprus and Turkey do which is two years of compulsory army training starting from when your 18.

I’d be omitted of course thanks to dislocating my knee several times playing rugby league.

Jeez, was carrying the water bottles [ithat[/i dangerous?

You’ve got to remember I come from Yorkshire and we use water bottles (wrapped in cloth) as make do rugby balls. Just like they do in PNG.

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Labour hold Wigan.

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