I shame our sport? Give over. You talk about but for the grace of God and conveniently overlook that every other club apart from Cas and Wakey have made strides. You should be thanking your lucky stars the powers that be lack the courage of their convictions. What is truly shameful is clubs stringing everyone along with promises of jam tomorrow - shameful behaviour indeed imo.

Are they strides forwards though?
If you can’t see the disadvantages of not owning your own stadium, you’re not thinking deeply enough.

I don’t disagree that “making strides” could be argued to be deeply wounding for many clubs. However, I credit them for attempting to do the right thing. Can’t you appreciate that, 23 yrs into SL, some may look at Cas and think “why did we bother?” .

Maybe, but I’m pretty sure Leigh and Widnes will be wishing they hadn’t bothered and think Cas made exactly the right decision.

You really are clueless - unfortunately people like you don’t want to be educated not even by your own fans so excuse me if I leave this argument as it’s now pointless - enjoy your day.

all the Lancashire clubs were made to with franshising, the memo didnt make it over there...how many superleague clubs from over here dont have newish stadia?

That's a fair point although the sums owed to the Fulton family suggest it's they who effectively own wheldon road, not cas.

I think the Fultons took shares in payment for the loans. They have so many now they basically own the club.
However they aren't selling the Jungle when the new ground is built but keeping it on as an "elite academy facility", whatever one of them is.

The Fulton family (Ian and Janet) own about 80% of the club. It's the same slice of the cake as the ownership of Rhino's (with Caddick/Hetherington) and Wakey (Carter/Berreton) so it's nothing special.

The original thread was about flares being set off at the Cas game. I see that on the Hudds and Cas forums it is being reported that Cas fans set off flares at last nights game.

Salary Cap breaches?, good job the majority of Wigan fans are not as arrogant as you. I hadn't realised it's half term.

It's a real bugbear of mine its everytime you go to saints or the wire they really ruin the game for me,anyone caught with these at a game should get a life ban and i include every teams fans in this

It was a wigan fan who did that as well.

Disadvantages like having a game postponed because there's a football game rescheduled? Like having the pitch re-laid to suit the second class football team and sod the Premier League Rugby League team? Those kind of disadvantages?

I suspect there’s quite a lot that you don’t realise.

YAWN

How much does BV cost per year for the upkeep?

Wigan pay next to nothing in rent (a % of the match day income I believe) which includes things like the said relaying of the pitch and the refurb of the changing rooms that happened recently.

Thanks for the input. Would you care to add something constructive, perhaps a rebuttal to my comments or are you sticking with the “you’re arrogant/juvenile” line of insults? The facts may be uncomfortable for you but remain. Cas have done nothing in terms of ground improvement throughout the entire history of SL whereas virtually every other club has. If a Widnes, Leigh, HKR, etc fan held this opinion would they be arrogant or juvenile?

There’s rules around minimum pitch dimensions. Cas meets those rules. To be honest, it’s just a pathetic excuse used by sore losers.

Except the comment was made before the game. Nice try though.

This entire thread wasn’t started until the day after the game.

I took it to be a response to my comment re the short pitch that I must have made in another thread. If so, apologies.

All monies from all the food/drink kiosks goes to the ground owners we don't see a penny of it which i don't have a problem with,would i prefer to own our own ground yes but it ain't the end of the world,its a small price to pay for having a nice ground

I agree when fans are knitt picking about such things the argument is lost. Maybe a smaller pitch doesn't allow Wigan player enough time to get up to speed before attacking opposition players ankles, just a thought

I agree it's horse for courses. I'd be happy with either but at the moment we don't really have either.