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| Quote ="Roverswall"In otherwords.
Im gunna ignore our dodgy decision but im gunna moan about yours.
Whatever floats your boat.'"
Home quick wasn't ya?
Yours was up for debate. There is nothing dodgy about the hooter having gone shag.
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| Quote ="AJ"Home quick wasn't ya?
Yours was up for debate. There is nothing dodgy about the hooter having gone shag.'" These new mobiles are fun actually
As for the rest of your post ill refer you to my previous post.
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| Quote ="Mark1987"Game of two halfs, can't blame it on the hooter try!!
First Half - Our defence was amazing, and we forced the knock on's in the Hull side, due to our defence being so good the Hull team lost their game head...
Second half - Hull's defence was far better and they started to get in our faces like we did to them in the first half. I'd love to see the completed sets % for the wigan side in the 2nd half, be lucky if we hit 40% and that's what loss us the game, not the hooter try!!
Great game, two great teams playing great rugby, and a good following from the Hull guys on a friday night!!'"
Hull play Warrington tomorrow
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| Quote ="wireontour"I heard the floodlights were a bit bright - maybe thats it. - Its Whelans fault.
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Well whats your excuse for where you are in superleague,?????are wire a team for the play offs???? oh we hear that every year but really they are a team of nearly, never quite there so before you come on here banging tour gums look at your own team CHUMP
SEE YOU NEXT WEEK FOR A WARRIORS BACKLASH!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="AJ"Home quick wasn't ya?
Yours was up for debate. There is nothing dodgy about the hooter having gone shag.'" Was the excessive (8 mins wasn't it?) of extra time at the end of the game for our benifit as well?
Or is that gunna be ignored by your goodself as well?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Was the excessive (8 mins wasn't it?) of extra time at the end of the game for our benifit as well?
Or is that gunna be ignored by your goodself as well?'"
What is this mystical 8 minutes you speak of?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Was the excessive (8 mins wasn't it?) of extra time at the end of the game for our benifit as well?
Or is that gunna be ignored by your goodself as well?'"
It was excessive but due to the amount of scrums the daft "let's form it quick to stop the clock" was well enforced throughout the second half which played a big part in that i suppose.
Anyway I still think........
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| Silverwood was shocking all round, for both sides, and as much as I'm glad he fooked up for Dobsons try by allowing us to play the ball, it was a very poor decision.
Then again, if your lot didn't bang that drum so loud, he might have heard it.
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| Quote ="wireontour"Youre probably right but give him time to work his magic - expert team divider'"
you c@ck who are wire
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| Quote ="Bilko"It was excessive but due to the amount of scrums the daft "let's form it quick to stop the clock" was well enforced throughout the second half which played a big part in that i suppose.
Anyway I still think........
'" He made numerous boo boo's all nite for both sides.
Which is kinda my point.
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| The in goal judge who was perfectly placed gave Dobson as "held up"
I watched the replay and the video was shown from behind Dobson, so how can anyone say from that, it was a try?
There were no objections from the HKR players.
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| Silverwood was about as good as Bin Laden's stag party.
I hate complaining about refs - I generally think they do their best for right or wrong, but he gave us bugger all tonight. We got two 50-50s I can recall and his constant blowing up at every scrum was ridiculous.
Three things cost us the game - the shambolic try after the hooter, Smith going off on some mad run (I understand what he was trying to do, but the KR defence was up too quickly all night) and kicking into a charge-down, and the superb KR defence that was on us faster than a scouser on a dropped quid.
That said, we played well. Our forwards ran hard and hit very hard - some of those tackles made the East Stand shudder, I've not seen some many hits like that for years - and you've got to expect some mistakes in pouring rain. For me, our passing from the PTB was too slow and we couldn't cope with KR running up fast in defence.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"Silverwood was about as good as Bin Laden's stag party.
I hate complaining about refs - I generally think they do their best for right or wrong, but he gave us bugger all tonight. We got two 50-50s I can recall and his constant blowing up at every scrum was ridiculous.
Three things cost us the game - the shambolic try after the hooter, Smith going off on some mad run (I understand what he was trying to do, but the KR defence was up too quickly all night) and kicking into a charge-down, and the superb KR defence that was on us faster than a scouser on a dropped quid.
That said, we played well. Our forwards ran hard and hit very hard - some of those tackles made the East Stand shudder, I've not seen some many hits like that for years - and you've got to expect some mistakes in pouring rain. For me, our passing from the PTB was too slow and we couldn't cope with KR running up fast in defence.'"
Im sorry to moan about the ref and im not one for doing it but do you not think perhaps they were 'up so quick' as they were constantly offside. Some of the offsides were ridiculous tonight....saw some hull players at times up to 5 yards infront of the ref and he didnt blow up?!!?
You have to question a game like tonight.....yes we werent at our best...but IMO we were the better team over the 80 dominated yardage and the collision, yet came away with nothing?! Why? ridiculous penalties from the ref given to them and them lying offside all game IMO. For me youve also got to question 'did hullkr pos going top influence the ref and the game?' wouldnt accuse anything without knowing the facts but I wouldnt have put it past the rfl to tell silverwood to come out playing for hull as if they go top it would show how 'open and great our super dooper league is'
Lets be honest who has seen a more one sided refing performance than that ever. It was 14 v 13 all night...we never really stood a chance
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"Im sorry to moan about the ref and im not one for doing it but do you not think perhaps they were 'up so quick' as they were constantly offside. Some of the offsides were ridiculous tonight....saw some hull players at times up to 5 yards infront of the ref and he didnt blow up?!!?
You have to question a game like tonight.....yes we werent at our best...but IMO we were the better team over the 80 dominated yardage and the collision, yet came away with nothing?! Why? ridiculous penalties from the ref given to them and them lying offside all game IMO. For me youve also got to question 'did hullkr pos going top influence the ref and the game?' wouldnt accuse anything without knowing the facts but I wouldnt have put it past the rfl to tell silverwood to come out playing for hull as if they go top it would show how 'open and great our super dooper league is'
Lets be honest who has seen a more one sided refing performance than that ever. It was 14 v 13 all night...we never really stood a chance'"
I think you're denying KR a lot of credit there. No, they weren't offside all night - from my seat in the East Stand I watched their line of defence and yes there were a few could have been given, but for the most they were hot out of the blocks and closing us down fast - which is mainly why we couldn't get into our stride in attack. Brilliant tactics at any time, but especially in the conditions.
I fully agree with the rest - except for one period in the first half, we had the most of territory, possession and physical dominance, and there was a spell in that first half we were battering them all over the park. In which case we should have come out with the win.
Oh, and the ref's blatant rubbishness didn't help.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"The hooter went as the tackle was made. Why don't they do what they used to do a blow the hooter when the ball is dead. But that was one of the worst reffing decision I've ever seen.'"
the hooter is just both teams time keepers timing to tell the fans the ref has his own watch and his time is what count i no this from sitting with 2 time keepers once but silverwood was poor at times but the weather was awful for rugby and the teams did well to make a very very good game of it well done wigan no trouble aswel until a little chav thru a stone at our coach on the way out of wigan but overall a very good night thank you
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| Im just disappointed that once again we have lost at home. Im not taking any credit away from KR, but if you want to be near the top of the table come the end of the season, then you have to aim to win nearly all of your home games.
Losing to KR, Cas, Wakefield and Huddersfield at home is not good enough.
Fair play to KR though, there top of the table for a reason.
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"the hooter is just both teams time keepers timing to tell the fans the ref has his own watch and his time is what count i no this from sitting with 2 time keepers once but silverwood was poor at times but the weather was awful for rugby and the teams did well to make a very very good game of it well done wigan no trouble aswel until a little chav thru a stone at our coach on the way out of wigan but overall a very good night thank you'" Sorry, that is nonsense. If the ref uses his watch, why have time-keepers?
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| Quote ="Dave T"Sorry, that is nonsense. If the ref uses his watch, why have time-keepers?'"
so if he does try ripping teams off by adding allot of extra time it is noticed.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"Im sorry to moan about the ref but, Lets be honest who has seen a more one sided refing performance than that ever. It was 14 v 13 all night...we never really stood a chance'" Shock horror, the ref was biased
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"so if he does try ripping teams off by adding allot of extra time it is noticed.'"
The ref is not the person who decides time is up and has not been for long time, its the timekeepers. The rules about what happens when the hooter goes off have changed over recent seasons but he screwed up tonight.
The hooter went off when the players were on the deck and the ball was dead. He screwed up allowing a PTB after that and I can't see any reason to argue otherwise.
This opinion has nothing to do with the result but Silverwood should be demoted for that decision and no excuses should be made.
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| Quote ="DaveO"The ref is not the person who decides time is up and has not been for long time, its the timekeepers. The rules about what happens when the hooter goes off have changed over recent seasons but he screwed up tonight.
The hooter went off when the players were on the deck and the ball was dead. He screwed up allowing a PTB after that and I can't see any reason to argue otherwise.
This opinion has nothing to do with the result but Silverwood should be demoted for that decision and no excuses should be made.
Dave'"
you do realise that refs never get dropped look at ben thaler the worst ref ever id love the rfl to drop some refs and let some new ones come thru to give competition for them to ref fair and equal every game
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| Quote ="diehardofowld"Shock horror, the ref was biased
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you noticed it too flower?
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| Quote ="HKR Tribal"you do realise that refs never get dropped look at ben thaler the worst ref ever id love the rfl to drop some refs and let some new ones come thru to give competition for them to ref fair and equal every game'"
A ref was dropped to NL1 last season. Can't remember which one but tonight's error was worthy of similar action IMO.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"That said, we played well. Our forwards ran hard and hit very hard - some of those tackles made the East Stand shudder, I've not seen some many hits like that for years - and you've got to expect some mistakes in pouring rain. For me, our passing from the PTB was too slow and we couldn't cope with KR running up fast in defence.'"
Indeed. I bet Stanley Gene will feel it in the morning. He got boomed about 5 times.
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