Pat did a far better job of this last season, can't remember feka doing it all to be honest.

If you had James Graham, Jamie Peacock (fit) and Stuart Fielden as your other three props then Feka would do well.

.....as would Ricky Bibey

I can only assume that this punishing pre-season progamme has only just started.

How times change.

This time last year this place was full of tales on how fit Palaaesina was looking and how he was going to tear Super League to bits.

Either way I will always fondly remember his time at Wigan for the important role he had in getting Warrington back to Wembley after twenty years.

By a handful of supporters.

He does, however, have as many super league winners rings as Warrington's entire starting 13

He scored a cracking try in the play offs against Hull KR too. Warrington could do with a player who turns up for the play offs

Small crumbs of comfort for you there.

While you were listening to how Feka was going to tear SL to bits in 2010, we were listening to how 2010 was going to be the year of the Wolf (again). Things don't always pan out the way folk expect.

One out of two pots, isn't a bad return on a season.

I wouldn't back against you doing it again in 2011 if you manage to avoid playing a top 3 team again

True. But don't try to pretend the emphasis hasn't shifted to the play-offs.

Heaven's sake, Sheffield Eagles once won the Challenge Cup. It's a great achievement, but it's not the be-all any more.

With everything we were hearing about Wire at the start of last season, you'd have thought they'd sweep the board. But they didn't do as well as expected in the league, and their play-off adventure as a complete wash-out.

Feka may ultimately have been a disappointment, but he didn't prevent Wigan becoming champions. What prevented Warrington?

Was it Mike Cooper who said last season Warrington would clean up the trophies?

Look at this from the Wire board: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=479842

Look at this from the Wire board: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=479842

It is my opinion that a 'double' is no longer viable with the greater number of teams available to challenge/affect the outcome of the GF. When it had been a carve-up between Saints and Leeds a CC win (and the associated short turnaround to the play-offs) didn't particularly effect either team as neither had to be at their best to get to the GF.

I don't believe this to be the exclusive reasoning behind Warrington's poor showing, the preference to play dry weather rugby in monsoon-like conditions in consecutive games (not learning from the Saints game is unforgivable in my book), allied to the above is the reasoning behind a poor play-off showing.

The 'emphasis' shifting to the play-offs is down to the hyperbole of Sky. It is hardly a new competition is it?
Sheffield Eagles winning the CC, once, doesn't automatically devalue the competition, why would it?

I would dearly love to get to the GF at the expense of the CC, but my personal reasoning is solely for a new experience not putting a stronger emphasis on the GF than the CC.

Just to back up a little of what you say.
No team has done the Cup and Superleague double since the Challenge Cup was moved to August.

Saints 2006?

I'm dying for us to do the double this year!!!

Still not sure whether or not I agree with having the final in august yet. I think teams being rather rusty at the start of the year would make for some much better cup ties.

Except us.

I wouldn't be surprised if a double was won by Wigan next year. It's definitely viable and will happen lots more times.

I agree it's doable, but it would take a team with great mental strength as well as everything else.

Whether Wigan have that, I'm undecided. 'Second season' factors may now kick in.

Quote ="19 Leagues"Look at this from the Wire board: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=479842 '" These warrington fans are so in dream land they have an old side with some very average players and a 33 yr old full back who they think is billy slater haha cant wait to play them and it would be even better if we knock them out the challenge cup

Quote ="19 Leagues"Look at this from the Wire board: viewtopic.php?f=21&t=479842 '" These warrington fans are so in dream land they have an old side with some very average players and a 33 yr old full back who they think is billy slater haha cant wait to play them and it would be even better if we knock them out the challenge cup

You're forgetting, in our mind's eye, that didn't happen

why has this thread turned into a warrington topic . back on topic fekka did look a bit fleshy in his salford kit. As a team wigan didnt give him an inch. we all know how dangerous he can be if he gets up a head of steam. It was good to see he still him give us the thumbs up. I will always look at the hull kr match with fond memories of fekka

Apologies

I was sure that the Challenge Cup Final only went to August when it returned to Wembley. The stupid thing is that I was at Twickenham in 2006.