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| Is he the only player to win the LLS with 3 different clubs?.
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| Quote ="warrior1872"Is he the only player to win the LLS with 3 different clubs?.'"
Lee Gilmour has won the LLS at least twice with three different clubs.
Wigan 1998 and 2000
Bradford 2001 and 2003
Saints 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008
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| Zak has been outstanding this year. I get that people are commenting that he's perhaps not the eye catching game breaker that he was at Cas but I feel that is somewhat missing the point. What he has added, not only to his game, but to his leadership skills and, most importantly of all, as a person more than outweighs the yard of pace he has lost. Unlike Cas we have that commodity in abundance elsewhere in the team.
I feel it's very much a similar situation to Hastings. Less of the showreel stuff for sure but overall a more rounded player with a value to the team that goes well beyond that.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Lee Gilmour has won the LLS at least twice with three different clubs.
Wigan 1998 and 2000
Bradford 2001 and 2003
Saints 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008'"
wasnt a shield in 1998 and 2000
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| Quote ="Pieman"wasnt a shield in 1998 and 2000'"
Oh. Well he's played for a team that finished top of SL all those years anyway, and they seem to retrospectively count it towards our tally. Same difference
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Lee Gilmour has won the LLS at least twice with three different clubs.
Wigan 1998 and 2000
Bradford 2001 and 2003
Saints 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008'"
There was no LLS until 2003,close but no cigar
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| Why did we let Gilmour go? remember him as a kid (me as a kid) and thinking he was great. Watched him for Great Britain at Central Park against Fiji and he must have been a teenager.
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| Quote ="warrior1872"There was no LLS until 2003,close but no cigar'"
Oh. Well he's played for a team that finished top of SL all those years anyway, and they seem to retrospectively count it towards our tally. Same difference
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Oh. Well he's played for a team that finished top of SL all those years anyway, and they seem to retrospectively count it towards our tally. Same difference'"
But i never mentioned finishing top i said LLS,read more carefully before posting
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| Quote ="jonh"1 thing I don’t get is the perception that he isn’t a centre.
He played all of his junior rugby at centre, made his breakthrough at Fev as a wing then moved to centre and was signed by Leeds as a centre as a long term replacement for Keith Senior.
His first season at Leeds was at centre and he only moved to fullback when the Webb picked up an injury.
When he moved to the NRL with Penrith he played as a wing/centre.
If Webb hadn’t been injured he would never have played fullback. This clearly became a very good position for him and one he made his own but he still has bags of centre experience.
Given his loss of pace the move back to centre was a natural move for him and for me particularly positionally that experience as a centre hasn’t been lost to him.'"
A very good post about Zak and pretty much bang on with what I was told John
I was told at the time that we initially signed Zak ( by a person within the club) that they initially singed him to play on the wing as he was only about 11 or 12 stone wet through, in order to get him used to playing SL before moving him to centre to replace Senior.
But that the club were also aware that Webb was coming to the back end of his career and that they could also see him being a replacement for Webb too
Either way the Rhinos needed either a 1 or a 4 to replace Senior or Webb
Zak was sensational for Leeds and Cas at 1 and was on a par with Sam Tomkins although they both had very different skill sets.
I honestly believe that the Rhinos and Cas both got the best of Zak whilst he was at his peak but that you guys have also got a very good player who looks to have settled down at Wigan
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| Quote ="warrior1872"But i never mentioned finishing top i said LLS,read more carefully before posting'"
I did, I thought it was an interesting bit of trivia and made the fundamental error of thinking about it and trying to provide a response to engage you in conversation. Sorry for not knowing when they first started handing out the hubcap oh great and knowledgeable one. What incredible insight to correct me three hours after someone else had already said the exact same thing.
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