Yes, but refer to my earlier post. There isn’t much of an incentive to build a new stadium when every penny that is spent at Wheldon Road goes directly to the club. Why would we put ourselves in a weaker financial position and be tenants? We’d lose revenue from ticket sales, all food and drink bought on matchday and stadium sponsorship. We’d also lose our training fasciiities and have to pay build a training base. And then we’d be at the mercy of the company who own the stadium in terms of when we can use it etc.
Look at the recent financial context. Teams who don’t own their own stadium (including Wigan here) and posting massive financial losses. It only takes the club owner to decide that they have another priority and, like Widnes, there is a risk the club goes into administration and possibly ceases to exist.
The reason Cas haven’t built a new stadium is that it would put the club in a weaker position than it is currently. The current project looks like it might come to fruition and the club will have ownership of the stadium too, so if and when that happens it will be a step forward in this area. But if it doesn’t I’d still rather be playing in a delapidated stadium that we own rather than be tenants at the mercy of someone else.

Why, your point is utterly irrelevant, end of.

So why the constant lies about the new stadium bring just around the corner? The fact is Cas have been fobbing SL off for years. Good luck to you, you’ve got away with it.

There not lies, stop being so pathetically ignorant. Wakefield and Cas don't have a millionaire to build them a stadium do they. You did so just remember that before you start your stupid accusations.

It would have been just as impossible for Wigan to get a new stadium as it would with the rest of the teams in SL without support from A: a millionaire, B: with the support of a developor, C: without the support of their local Council. Cas and Wakefield have had none of the above.

People like you have very selective and petty memories - you should be saying thetr but fir the gace of god - Wigan and the rest have been very fortunate, I don't begrudge you that - what I do find sad is that you use it to point score over less fortunate clubs - you shame our sport.

No more shames the sport than people switching on their TVs to see games played in stadiums that would look out of place in footballs League 2.

You are correct in what you say about the millionaires etc etc though.

I'm not denying that, do you think we like BV as it is now? Luckily we now own it again so lets give the new people in charge a bit of leeway.

In defence of these two clubs, it's not as if there has been no effort to try and bring either a new ground, or to update facilities. Thankfully, the HJS was built when it was, but this took a large amount of assistance from Tesco and Warrington BC. Wigan were also helped out by the same supermarket and Derek Whelan. The answer may lie in that Cas and Wakey didn't have such partners to get their projects over the line. That doesn't mean that future plans are no longer being worked on.

How refreshing for a fan of another club to be reasonable about the stadium woes of both clubs!

That said - I see no relevance to the original post anyway - unless its now a legitimate form of protest at the state of another clubs stadia, for visiting fans to throw pyrotechnics onto the field of play?

Absolutely, doesn't matter if it's a new stadium or an old one, there will still be a small minority of idiots. Nor is the stadium a justification for stupid behaviour.

I shame our sport? Give over. You talk about but for the grace of God and conveniently overlook that every other club apart from Cas and Wakey have made strides. You should be thanking your lucky stars the powers that be lack the courage of their convictions. What is truly shameful is clubs stringing everyone along with promises of jam tomorrow - shameful behaviour indeed imo.

Are they strides forwards though?
If you can’t see the disadvantages of not owning your own stadium, you’re not thinking deeply enough.

I don’t disagree that “making strides” could be argued to be deeply wounding for many clubs. However, I credit them for attempting to do the right thing. Can’t you appreciate that, 23 yrs into SL, some may look at Cas and think “why did we bother?” .

Maybe, but I’m pretty sure Leigh and Widnes will be wishing they hadn’t bothered and think Cas made exactly the right decision.

You really are clueless - unfortunately people like you don’t want to be educated not even by your own fans so excuse me if I leave this argument as it’s now pointless - enjoy your day.

all the Lancashire clubs were made to with franshising, the memo didnt make it over there...how many superleague clubs from over here dont have newish stadia?

That's a fair point although the sums owed to the Fulton family suggest it's they who effectively own wheldon road, not cas.

I think the Fultons took shares in payment for the loans. They have so many now they basically own the club.
However they aren't selling the Jungle when the new ground is built but keeping it on as an "elite academy facility", whatever one of them is.

The Fulton family (Ian and Janet) own about 80% of the club. It's the same slice of the cake as the ownership of Rhino's (with Caddick/Hetherington) and Wakey (Carter/Berreton) so it's nothing special.

The original thread was about flares being set off at the Cas game. I see that on the Hudds and Cas forums it is being reported that Cas fans set off flares at last nights game.

Salary Cap breaches?, good job the majority of Wigan fans are not as arrogant as you. I hadn't realised it's half term.

It's a real bugbear of mine its everytime you go to saints or the wire they really ruin the game for me,anyone caught with these at a game should get a life ban and i include every teams fans in this

It was a wigan fan who did that as well.

Disadvantages like having a game postponed because there's a football game rescheduled? Like having the pitch re-laid to suit the second class football team and sod the Premier League Rugby League team? Those kind of disadvantages?

I suspect there’s quite a lot that you don’t realise.

YAWN