I thought his post about Matt was good.
I believe Wigan would look more settled if MS was running out will GW in the halves tonight.

Obsession with Matty Smith needs to stop, he was very very average at best, what we needed when he left was someone who had the same traits as him but could perform them to a higher level, someone like Luke Gale or Marc Sneyd

Same traits? You mean slow, poor passing accuracy, poor decision making, poor defence and consistently kicks the ball directly to the full back or winger for catching practice but had one or two decent games when it was throwing it down with rain? I think you’re being unfair to Sneyd and Gale if you think they have the same traits as Smith!

I bet you wish you had Matty Smith now!

Always thought he was ok for us better than Williams that's for sure

Anyone who says we have the better player in Williams is living in dreamland! Waste of a marquee player uninterested miserable and not worth all the brown nosing on here!

yes he did all the things Williams can't do , organise direct play ,and had a decent kicking game

Matty Smith was garbage. at one stage he was getting the exact same criticism that Williams is now getting. People wanted him dropped because he was offering nothing down the right.

It wasn't everyone giving Smith grief only the usual haters you tell me anyonebthatvis honestly happy with Williams?!

Williams has provided a lot for us over the last few years. Even when not playing well he was creating his fair share of opportunities and regularly among the highest for assists in Super League. There's obvious talent there. He's certainly not come close to fulfilling his potential though - he's not really played as you'd expect a 'marquee player' to do. However, I think the expectation and 'marquee' tag has always meant Williams isn't judged for what he's produced, but by what people think he isn't doing that someone of his billing should. As a result, he's often one of the most harshly criticised players despite rarely being among our worst.

Having said that, one of the questions seems to be whether he's mentally tough enough. If Adrian Lam is right and the contract issues are affecting his form (and I remember his form was very poor before he eventually re-signed for us last time) then it doesn't exactly bode well for his ability to face whatever is thrown at him. I know players are human beings, that they are under immense pressure and these things can make or break careers, so I have some sympathy, but it's hardly a unique situation he's in. It happens to players across many sports. If Williams is so frequently thrown of his game by things like this I'm not sure whether he's ever going to fulfill that potential.

Williams was completely atrocious last night. Didn't provide a single threat with a run, pass or kick.

As the original poster of this subject i stated that it might be better to leave Williams out for a couple of weeks to sort his head out i was shot down for even suggesting it,i wonder if people still want him in the first team after yet another shocking game,no creation goes for tries when he shouldn't and last night there was a gap and he passed it and nowt comes of it

The people giving Smith grief were the usual suspects who constantly moan about everything, and everybody..

WANE OUT............ Be careful what you wish for..

In talks with Canberra https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/raider ... 512yf.html

In talks with Canberra https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/raider ... 512yf.html

Williams' current poor form doesn't make Matty Smith any better. Far from 'directing us around the park', he more typically hoofed it straight in to the bread-basket of the opposing full-back.

One thing is certain: whatever you think of George Williams generally - and his talent is undeniable to me - he must be knocking zeros off his price-tag each time he turns out in 2019.

I never wanted Wane out?

Summed up quite will I think. Undeniable talent but just isn’t or hasn’t been showing it at all.

Done deal 1/2m Canberra apparently.

3-year deal at Canberra from next year according to The Mole

[urlhttps://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/canberra-raiders-sign-george-williams-from-wigan-england-test-halfback/7f29697e-219c-4039-94be-a6e5852dc00f[/url

What is 1/2m?

I'd imagine 1/2m is £500,000.

God damn it what is wrong with this club and players not honouring contracts?

So it goes on the rats are jumping ship where has the loyalty gone.All down to agents scum

He's seen Bateman's insta vids training on the beach and he wants some of the action. Gildart will be next for sure.