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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Why wouldn't we? Offloaded Sam Tomkins who was our marquee player and top earner. It's a live cap, we've only brought in Hardaker since Tomkins and Bateman left, and Hardaker isn't a marquee signing.'"
Signed Hardaker and Bullock and gave Manfredi, Davies, Marshall, Gildart and Isa new deals, which I presume would all be increased given that all of their stocks have improved to varying degrees. I'm told Sam only counted for £75k against the cap, Hardaker bound to be a similar cap hit even if we were paying Sam more.
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| Sammutt signing for Wigan just emphasises everything that's wrong with Rugby League over here. A 32 year old average player taking up an overseas spot. I've argued for years that we should be getting the quotas down to a maximum of three and the fact that Wigan have done it doesn't change my views. I obviously hope he does well but if we were going to sign an overseas player I would much rather us have signed a Gabe Hamlin type "project" player.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Signed Hardaker and Bullock and gave Manfredi, Davies, Marshall, Gildart and Isa new deals, which I presume would all be increased given that all of their stocks have improved to varying degrees. I'm told Sam only counted for £75k against the cap, Hardaker bound to be a similar cap hit even if we were paying Sam more.'"
Are you sure the Davies, Marshall and Gildart deals only kicked in from 2019?
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| Quote ="Trainman"We might have a marquee spot available, that doesn’t mean that IL is prepared to spend the money. It is well noted IL is cutting the players wage budget.'"
Has the club written next season off and decided to wait until Edwards starts?
Lost 3 of our better paid players last season and replaced them with Ste Bullocks and Jarrod Sammut.
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| What a disgraceful welcome most of you have given to our new signing. What must the poor guy be thinking when he reads the negative comments surrounding him?
And what must Lam and Edwards be thinking about the comments which indirectly are questioning their judgment?
I remember "supporters" being just as negative when we signed the likes of Platt, Byrne, Cowie, Hall, Panapa, etc to name but a few.
Please stop this negativity and get behind and support the guy and his coach.
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| load of garbage weve been linked with loads seen other clubs signings and ended up with this ......
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"Sam wanted to go. He wanted to experience a different culture of life. Not my words them as i not even sure what it means. I wish Sam all the best, like i did with Edwards Hanley Gregory Offiah ect.....'"
Sam got offered more from Catalan which helped of course,you only have to read between the lines from the press when it was announced to see that.
As for Sammut this is a very poor move,never thought Lam jnr would come but this lad Christ almighty is he better than what’s here I’m not so sure sometimes you twist whe you should have stuck,this is one of those times in my opinion.
As for ever thinking of Widdop in a Wigan shirt I think this blows that hope out of the water.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"What a disgraceful welcome most of you have given to our new signing. What must the poor guy be thinking when he reads the negative comments surrounding him?
And what must Lam and Edwards be thinking about the comments which indirectly are questioning their judgment?
I remember "supporters" being just as negative when we signed the likes of Platt, Byrne, Cowie, Hall, Panapa, etc to name but a few.
Please stop this negativity and get behind and support the guy and his coach.'"
Finally someone thinking like me. If you want to finds negatives its very easy.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"What a disgraceful welcome most of you have given to our new signing. What must the poor guy be thinking when he reads the negative comments surrounding him?
And what must Lam and Edwards be thinking about the comments which indirectly are questioning their judgment?
I remember "supporters" being just as negative when we signed the likes of Platt, Byrne, Cowie, Hall, Panapa, etc to name but a few.
Please stop this negativity and get behind and support the guy and his coach.'"
WHAT?
Sorry captain high horse, but I will continue discussing signings with other supporters if and when and how I like. Sorry but this is the real world, we can't all be happy and champion new signings and back our coach when we're unhappy with the signing.
If you don't like it, gallop off.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"What a disgraceful welcome most of you have given to our new signing. What must the poor guy be thinking when he reads the negative comments surrounding him?
And what must Lam and Edwards be thinking about the comments which indirectly are questioning their judgment?
I remember "supporters" being just as negative when we signed the likes of Platt, Byrne, Cowie, Hall, Panapa, etc to name but a few.
Please stop this negativity and get behind and support the guy and his coach.'"
I hope that messageboard comments won’t affect his day to day preparation to be honest otherwise we really have scraped the barrel. He’ll get the support in the stadium when he wears the shirt but all of those players above weren’t at the back end of their careers were they? The game is not played on paper but there are no positives to this signing, it goes against what we are led to believe is the culture of the club, which I’ve always believed to be signing the best or signing players who we believe have the potential to be the best.
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"Sam wanted to go. He wanted to experience a different culture of life. Not my words them as i not even sure what it means. I wish Sam all the best, like i did with Edwards Hanley Gregory Offiah ect.....'"
Rubbish. Sam would have happily seen his contract out. It was the club who wanted to renegotiate to save money. Does anyone actually believe Sam wouldn’t have stayed here on his existing marquee deal? Instead we sign players like Sammut? IL must think we’re all mugs.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"WHAT?
Sorry captain high horse, but I will continue discussing signings with other supporters if and when and how I like. Sorry but this is the real world, we can't all be happy and champion new signings and back our coach when we're unhappy with the signing.
If you don't like it, gallop off.'"
HA HA
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| I blame Brexit.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Rubbish. Sam would have happily seen his contract out. It was the club who wanted to renegotiate to save money. Does anyone actually believe Sam wouldn’t have stayed here on his existing marquee deal? Instead we sign players like Sammut? IL must think we’re all mugs.'"
Sam initiated the move as did micky mac. Sam will be a miss for sure but trust me if his replacement hits the ground running we will have no problems this year.
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| Quote ="JonnyBroad"Sam initiated the move as did micky mac. Sam will be a miss for sure but trust me if his replacement hits the ground running we will have no problems this year.'"
Kris, is that you?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Are you sure the Davies, Marshall and Gildart deals only kicked in from 2019?'"
No that's true, I don't know that for sure.
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| Quote ="THE HINDLEY WARRIOR"What a disgraceful welcome most of you have given to our new signing. What must the poor guy be thinking when he reads the negative comments surrounding him?
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I remember "supporters" being just as negative when we signed the likes of Platt, Byrne, Cowie, Hall, Panapa, etc to name but a few.
Please stop this negativity and get behind and support the guy and his coach.'"
None of those were at the tail end of a distinctly average career having failed at two SL clubs but done well at a L1 club (Workington) and in an arguably over achieving London side. There’s absolutely no comparison.
I’ll support him when he’s in a Wigan shirt but in mine, and a heck of a lot of other supporters opinions, this is a poor signing.
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| Cash flow is clearly an issue at the club. Right now we are investing in facilities and structures rather than the playing squad which is fine but hopefully the former will pay off in the next 5-10 years.
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| A bit of a 'luxury player' but a good addition to your Squad (in my opinion). I know clubs don't usually have 'half backs' on the bench, but against a tiring team, he'd cause problems !
If it doesn't work out, we (Leigh) will have him on loan !
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| You keep signing championship level players you end up with a championship level side.
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| Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
It shows how far Super League has fallen.
No chance I will be buying a season ticket. We are a second rate competition with bang average second rate players.
Every year our best players leave and we sign average players. This has happened every year since 2010. I haven't been excited by a Wigan signing since the Melbourne trio in 2011.
Truth is I don't blame the club. We win trophies. Promote youth. Do the best we can. It is just depressing for the sport in the UK the lack of top tier talent we can attract to this competition.
Our best UK players go to Australia. Cannon fodder players just float around Super League. The only big names we can attract as a sport are players that have cocked up in their competition and have nowhere else to play like Barba. After one year they are straight off again.
Pathetic. What makes this all the more sick is that when played at the highest level there is no sport that can compete with Rugby League. My conviction of that will never wane.
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| I am absolutely amazed at the wealth of coaching knowledge on this board , no wonder Wigan are such a successes full club with all these SL quality coaches watching from the seats
Have any of you ever thought of actually going out and trying to coach a real club ?
Leyther here , all the best
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| So is Escare just our reserve full back now rather than an impact player off the bench? Such a waste if we have him sat in the stands
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"I blame Brexit.'"
What position does he play
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| Quote ="cadoo"Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
It shows how far Super League has fallen.
No chance I will be buying a season ticket. We are a second rate competition with bang average second rate players.
Every year our best players leave and we sign average players. This has happened every year since 2010. I haven't been excited by a Wigan signing since the Melbourne trio in 2011.
Truth is I don't blame the club. We win trophies. Promote youth. Do the best we can. It is just depressing for the sport in the UK the lack of top tier talent we can attract to this competition.
Our best UK players go to Australia. Cannon fodder players just float around Super League. The only big names we can attract as a sport are players that have cocked up in their competition and have nowhere else to play like Barba. After one year they are straight off again.
Pathetic. What makes this all the more sick is that when played at the highest level there is no sport that can compete with Rugby League. My conviction of that will never wane.'"
Super League has fallen? No, not really. It's Wigan signing second rate championship players not SL.
Saints have signed NRL starts Lachlan Coote and Kev Naiqama.
Wire have signed Blake Austin
Cats have signed Sam Tomkins
Hudds have signed Akuila Uate
Hull KR have signed Kane Linnett
Leeds have signed Tui Lolohea, Trent Merrin and Konrad Hurrell
Salford have signed Ken Sio and renewed on Jackson Hastings
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