Only our fans could discuss whether or not the coach should be sacked in a Grand Final thread.

The thread was derailed by AUOP in the very first reply to the OP. Still, it's been a good thread IMO. For me the quality of performance has been lacking for most of the season but, as we all know, it always comes down to how you play in Autumn, not Spring. Whether we win the GF or not I give SW qualified support just for getting us there, even if the images of our backs making the hard yards all season are still fresh in my mind.

But what would your answer to Charlie's question be? If we don't win on Saturday, so the "frank discussion" has to take place, who do you bring in who could do any better? I honestly don't think there is anyone at this stage. Not only are a lot of our players young, still learning and improving game on game, a lot of them have been with SW for years and would run their blood to water for him. Knee jerk getting rid of SW for reaching 3 grand finals on the bounce and bringing in a Powell or similar would be suicide IMO.

Last year we lost McIlorum in the week leading up to GF and Flower got sent off in the 2nd minute. Either of those things don't happen and we are back to back GF winners IMO. Yes the away performances and results need to improve and we've had two disappointing early exits in the cup, but it is pretty daft to be talking about getting rid of Wane.

Wonder if Faz will consider coming back to RL now? You've got to imagine they'll have a coaching clear-out and no doubt Owen will get hung out to dry for getting sin-binned.

Spot on JJ

I've just read a comment on Facebook saying 'Burgess has again proved he's not good enough for Rugby Union and should move back to League'



It was a poor showing from him not being able to turn the game on its head in 11 minutes. I mean he touched the ball once and put a winger in the clear but still.

Top quality facebook trolling that. Surely.

Who else can't wait to wind up some rugger folk in town on Saturday?

That's a very good point actually. Personally I'll certainly be bombing any union camera crews I can spot. I'm in town for other stuff for most of the afternoon anyway. It'll be a good game baiting the Eton schoolboys.

And it's taken less than 10 minutes for some Muppet on 5Live to slag off Burgess. The blame game soap opera is in full swing. Priceless.

First comment by the reporter on SSN when discussing Lancasters failings was him picking Burgess.

Yeah that was the main issue! They're unbelievable.

I hope Burgess has seen (heard) enough.

You think? I don't think we can rely on Leeds not turning up for a big game no matter how many tough games they've had to play. If we know one thing about Leeds it's that they've got what it takes to win, even against the odds (which, incidentally, I don't think this is). What's more, they're fighting for a dream end to an amazing season, hoping to send Sinfield, Peacock and Luluai off with the treble. They are not going to let us spoil that easily!

All in all I think this is going to be a fantastic, brutally difficult, Grand Final. I'm glad Leeds are our opponents, it's the final I was hoping for - not because it will be in any way easier than anyone else, of course, but because I think - this year at least - such a win will have the biggest kudos; beating this Leeds team at this particular time, after the season you've had, will mean more to me. And if it all goes pear-shaped I won't begrudge "Sir" Kev & co their dream send off. I can cope with that better than another loss to Saints.



As pointed out upthread though, it can go on the toss of a coin, it's anyone's game. Bring it on!

Would it not be a good idea to invite the self proclaimed No 1 England R/Union supporter Prince Harry to the biggest game in town next weekend and I don't mean the England v Uruguay match.

No doubt i think we can win it, and to be honest, this group of players have never given me a reason to doubt them, but I just think that it is a game too far. There are only so many times you can go to the well and leeds have had to go to the very bottom of that well twice in 2 weeks. I think it will almost certainly be a close, tense, tight game and for Leeds to do that for the 3rd time in 3 weeks would be a mammoth effort.

Quote ="SmokeyTA"No doubt i think we can win it, and to be honest, this group of players have never given me a reason to doubt them, but I just think that it is a game too far. There are only so many times you can go to the well and leeds have had to go to the very bottom of that well twice in 2 weeks. I think it will almost certainly be a close, tense, tight game and for Leeds to do that for the 3rd time in 3 weeks would be a mammoth effort.'" Remember 1991 and "mission impossible" Eight games in eighteen days. It can be done. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=3297

Quote ="SmokeyTA"No doubt i think we can win it, and to be honest, this group of players have never given me a reason to doubt them, but I just think that it is a game too far. There are only so many times you can go to the well and leeds have had to go to the very bottom of that well twice in 2 weeks. I think it will almost certainly be a close, tense, tight game and for Leeds to do that for the 3rd time in 3 weeks would be a mammoth effort.'" Remember 1991 and "mission impossible" Eight games in eighteen days. It can be done. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=3297

I would sooner have Edwards back than Farrell.

A couple of times in the old playoff formats Wigan went to Leeds after playing extra play off games away, once we came close the other time you could see the players dead on their feet. Play off games away to Bulls and Hull then away to Leeds proved too much.

Wigan have played the same number of play off games this time as the Rhinos but you can argue that Wigan have had the easier last two games. If the Rhinos can win on Saturday I would say that that would have been their best ever season and a deserved send off to the leaving legends

Only if we can have the stocks set up in the centre circle!

Id sooner have none of them. Neither have any RL coaching experience.

edwards had no ru experience till he went there.

He was one of the best RU juniors in the country back in the day. If he'd have been around now he'd have probably ended up playing RU professionally.

He actually only played about 5 games of Rugby Union, captained England at both codes and is probably the finest junior player I have ever seen.

Neither does Lockers and he'll get a coaching role when retires.

and? he was one of the best RL players

All clubs are equal. Some are more equal than others.