I thought Saints were pretty poor tonight. Played 12 men for 78 minutes and could only score 14 points. No excuses for Flower's actions because it was totally brainless, but if the shoe had been on the other foot and Saints had had 12 men I reckon the margin would have been 50+.

I'm not too bitter anyway, hope you enjoy the win. Wigan have got a very young squad, the only players 30+ are Lockers and Bowen. Confident we'll win more than one in the next 5 years or so.

I understand your point, but on many of the other RL fans sites this has been a point of discussion / anger for at least the last year by opposition fans, and more than a few are pleased to see that the tactics failed, so take the opportunity to come on the 'gloat' thread to do just that.....

Anyway I've said my piece.

Opinions should have at least some basis in fact. No one sent off this year until Flower. Leeds have 2, Saints 1 as do several others. People saying they are pleased Wigan lost because the team is thuggish are being stupid. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

At your expanse? It's not just me that thinks Waney's shovelled even more weight on then.

Wonder how his half time chat with the match commissioner went?

Dave,dave,dave u there or u gone missing like your fans do if losing after 60 mins the famous wigan walk....do what u want your team play thug rugby,your coach is class less didn't even do a post match interview....am leeds your wigan we are born to hate one another but so glad rugby league won tonight

Flower punching someone has nothing to do with tactics or the way Wigan play. There is no part of our strategy that involves smacking someone in the opening 2 minutes of a game. You're just bending it to fit your own narratives. He lost his head, it happens to players from time to time. It's not like Westwood's seemingly premeditated punch in last years game.

What a strange bunch..a gloating thread, but if you gloat you will banned !!!!!!!!

Glad you lost by the way !!

As are you for dismissing others opinions so easily & threatening bans because of it.

But there is a reason that fans of all other clubs have a disliking for Wane and the way he gets Wigan playing. We can't all be wrong and just throwing accusations.

I thought Wane got his cummupance big time this evening and I think the whole of rugby league is happy with who won tonight because of Wane and his culture at Wigan.


"SNAP THE POLE!"

Take your medicine Wigan you have been dishing it out all season you have got exactly what your brand of thugby deserve.
F#!k all

I bet ben flower feels so embarrassed on that coach....oh no he won't it's the wigan coach they be cheering him for a one punch knockout

But third man tackling around the knees is......

I've looked at this closely through this year and last.
It's not just 'jumping on a bandwagon' or anything like that.

There are so many good aspects of Wigan's play - blitzgreig attack, very fast wingers, strong defence - but I really dislike that aspect. It's not what I call league and not why I go to watch rugby.

It really annoys fans of other clubs that you get away with it so much

Get down you team of dirty thugs dirty thug team coach and fans.

You are just proving my point here.

Flower hitting Hohia isn't "tactics" yet here you and several others are saying you are happy these "tactics" cost Wigan a match.

It is a ridiculous conclusion to draw.

the warrington game took it out of you.

I wonder if he gave them free rein to knock people out, be reckless and create mayhem tonight....

It took Micky Mac out which was significant but without Flowers idiocy I think we would have won pretty comfortably.

You'd have won easy. Even a man down you were the better team. Makes the defeat all the more hilarious, you basically took a super league title and chucked it down the drain.

Love the fact Stains could create an overlap outwide with a man advantage. They probably deserved to win, but how many breaks did they make? Gutted but we played brilliant with 12 men

There is no doubt that Flower assaulting Hohaia was a turning point. It's a professional sport and the guy would no doubt get a couple months inside if he acted like that off the pitch as Jamie Peacock said on Twitter.Hope Flower gets a lengthy ban!



But in simple terms the Saints player he knocked out didn't feature again in the match either and he was one of their few experienced pivots.

Roby was great and Wigan were beaten by a Saints team missing several of its top players! I knew Wigan supporters would come out with 'if we'd had 13 on the pitch....'







Well done Saints you deserved it!

Yes we had loads of old players. Wello is defo 30+, LMS is past 25, Lance is around 30, oh hang on, we can't count him as he was taken out of the game by that insane thug Flower. Pretty much like he took out Gaz O'Brien at Langtree Park last year only worse as he also kept going once he'd already knocked him unconcious. The rest are all pretty young, but obviously not as young as your toddlers.

Saints made 1 break against Wigan's 6 , tackle busts were even with 19 each. This suggest Saints had to resort even more to a forward game, it would have been great if we could have had Lomax, Walsh, Wilkin and Lance playing.

I wasn't trying to make a comment about the age of Saint's players, I was just saying Wigan have a good foundation right now.

I think the result would have been the same either way pal, your thick prop took out saints only playmaker, they bet you tonight with a second rower and a over the hill fullback as halfs and to top it off a prop playing for 78 minutes. Best team won I think