That was paid for by the RFL (I think) - not sure why it was stopped.
Although, there is a case for some sort of discount for these games (in the same way the RFL subsidise Magic for example) & that might help bump up numbers in general if you knew that shelling out for a ST would get meaningful discounts for CC games (home and away).

Up until about 2/3 years ago, ST holders could get in to a 4R cup match for free. Cup quarters and semis should be seen as some of the biggest games of the season, the attendances for these games clearly show a lot of fans don't view them as such, same with first couple of weeks of the POs.

You can't manufacture atmosphere and that is what that did try and do IMO. It lasted as long as those involved were interested and was seen as a clique or if you prefer some sort of club within a club. It lasted about as long as I expected it would.

I don't know what the answer is but that wasn't it.

ticket prices for the CC games cannot be blamed for poor attendances. We paid £13 adult and £7 concessions. Superb for a game of that quality.

Better still I paid £9 for a concession ST holder and my grand daughter got it for free value for money .

Always right.

Exactly. I dont know what the answer is, I just think its the typical RL fan whinging attitude to be honest. Even if it was free there would be a reason not to go.

Sorry but you're talking utter nonsense, you can't manufacture atmosphere? That's exactly what they did successfully for nearly two years solid. You're exactly what is wrong with our fans, we can't do anything about the atmosphere so get used to it.

What does it matter who and how people go about creating an atmosphere, the atmosphere at games just a few years ago was becoming one of the best in SL. It's what the players want to play in front of, instead of shooting down great efforts of people who try, why don't you come up with some ideas yourself.

"It lasted as long as those involved were interested and was seen as a clique or if you prefer some sort of club within a club."

Thought it was because they were banned for the misbehaviour of a few. Probably by the same people who complained until the Drum was banned. Our rented accommodation is a joke.

When the Brigantes first came about with the colourful flags above the South Stand, the flag waving at the bottom and the banners in the crowd it was fantastic. It was the best atmosphere we had probably ever seen at the DW. Okay, it still wasn't outstanding but it was so much better than nothing.

A club within a club? You seriously need to get over yourselves with that attitude. Some Wigan fans pi$$ and moan about the lack of atmosphere yet condemned one of the best things for generating atmosphere in what was basically a "fans movement".

It is a shame that some morons got involved and spoiled it to a certain extent but I honestly don't see why the movement couldn't have continued to exist despite that.

The people running the original Brigantes with the flags and scarves were clearly sensible and knowledgeable people who are passionate about the club and did all they could in their spare time to have meetings and generate ideas. I thought it was bloody marvellous and before anyone says, no, I wasn't a part of the movement but I admired it from my seat in the East Stand.

It was great and it inspired things like the "Fat Dogs" at Bradford. For a brief spell it became the envy of many fans of opposition Super League clubs based on what was going on at both home and away matches. I'd love to see it return. The movement should be resurrected.

For those who don't like the Brigantes, for those who don't like the drum but continue to moan about the poor atmosphere. What is it that you exactly want? Besides moaning consistently about anything. If you don't like noise, don't go to an event which consistently sees 11,000+ people attend.

Stay at home, draw your curtains and be an armchair fan in the comfort of your own silence.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to thank those who take their time to put up the flags at the top of the South Stand. It's the one bit of residue left from a really positive and vibrant movement created by the fans.

Nothing like a spectacularly patronising generalisation is there!

From a personal perspective Saturday games, unless they are teatime/evening KO, are difficult for me to get to due to other commitments and I suspect for a lot of people that is far more of a motivation than the cost for why people didn't show up.

The flags were great, the singing was great, the drums were great.
The writing however was on the wall as soon as the scull & crossbones flag came out, the language deteriorated and they started wearing hoodies with scarves covering their faces. Prefer the way we are to that.

Can I please point out that the few that were banned were not in anyway linked to the 'Brigantes', they were a group of lads that tried to attach themselves to the group and were shunned but followed the others to games and due to their own 'agenda' ended up getting punished after the Huddersfield affair.

Lets face it the game is dying - waves of talent lured away to NRL or RU, no major stars to light up a crowd, dreary games, videos refs boring the pants of us all and the new farce of a comp which no one understands. Its is very difficult to keep the enthusiasm of my 12 & 13 yr old lads but at least the flags, drums, songs and enthusiasm they generated gave them some enjoyment.

The original Brigantes were also the people who created the new songs that have now become popular e.g. 'Cherry and White' & 'We are the Boys'.

What happened to that 'We Are Wigan' group? They had meetings with the club, lots of positivity etc and then all of a sudden it just went quiet. Anyone know?

They didn't realise how much hard work was required.

I would normally go to cup games etc. However, as a ST holder, I'm getting fed up of the club offering regular season games to non-ST holders throughout the season at discounted prices when I've paid not far off full price for each match through buying a season ticket. Lets face it, there isn't that much of a discount. I'm paying to go to crap games like Bradford and Harlequins when non-ST holders can just turn up for the big games or half decent games at a fraction of the cost. That is why I couldn't be d paying even more to attend the cup game, especially with it being on TV. If it wasn't for me wanting to keep my seats, I wouldn't bother getting a ST again.

This.

Absolutely spot on.
If just 10% of our ‘fans’ put in half the amount of thankless effort (to actually take the time to organise meetings, make flags, banners etc..,), noise, and passion that the Brigantes managed to put into the club, we wouldn’t have a problem with a lack of atmosphere.

To borrow & amend a line from JFK ,“Ask not what your club can do for you, ask what you can do for your club“.

I would also add my thanks to the fans still who take the time and effort to put up the flags in the South stand. Yet something else most fans just take for granted & man about when they aren't there. Was pleasantly surprised and amazed to hear a couple of chants starting in the East Stand last night - It can be done!

I was in the East Stand near where the chants started. It started with one or two people and this infected those around them who joined in. The 'one man Brigante' thing last night also showed that it only takes a small catalyst to get things going. I think most people want to get an atmosphere going but it just needs a Cataylst. Sometimes the game is the catalyst itself e.g. if the team is playing particularly well or if the game has particular meaning such as a Derby or against another close rival. So my take on last night is that what we need are just a few enthusiastic individuals strategically located in each stand to spark things off. If they operated as a team then it would be even better. I think this would be accepted more by the majority of the fans rather than trying to have a separate dedicated singing section or fan group.

I did tell them


One small step at a time, but some people want to change the world in one day?

Crap stadium, crap atmosphere.

Shouldn't be playing at Wigan Athpathetic's ground. Would love our own ground again.

No probs (me, conroy and our new recruit had a smashing time last week with our erection).
Our new recruit passed his interview so we have more members in the Erection section now which should help us moving forward as it has been very difficult to organise this year due to personal and work issues for me and conroy.