that's just it he needs the chance sooner rather than later Bowen is crocked plain for all to see

after playing 2 games? yeah sure he is

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ofc he is NQ cowbowys wouldn't have even got rid if he was fit to play top grade

after 2 games? in a new country and a new climate? get a grip

He won't be playing top grade this season, he will be playing against teams like yours...

Thats a fair point

team like mine


turned you lot over last year at your place

Can't understand what Shaun Wane - a man who emanates passion - sees in the apathetic and dispassionate Bowen.

The highpoint of your season i'm sure...

carnt see there being many high points to yours this year

Wetting myself here at the saddo's posting...

Back on topic please children.

He looks a lemon. he didn't even leave the ground and challenge for the bombs.

Some of the comments on here are pathetic. I'm not going to argue he had a great game but nobody has mentioned the high balls he took very well, the huge shot he put on Jennings which stopped a certain try scoring opportunity, and the try saving tackle on the best rugby player in the world.

Please will people stop pretending everything he did was bad, it wasn't.

Glad the thread title has been changed, all of a sudden he is the scapegoat, certainly not the reason we lost though.

Agree with all this, I said to Rogues that without even coming on here it would be all about Bowen. The tackle he made on SBW and Jennings were superb, I doubt Sam would have made the one on SBW! He did have a poor game though and made some costly errors but at least give him time to settle in for godsake. He also wasn't the reason we lost tonights game either, 15 errors in the first half are what lost us the game.

Just for the record i didn't start this thread i just replied to a thread entitled 'Matty Bowen', but for some reason i am listed as starting it

No excuse when his dropping balls on a dry pitch in Australia

He's an Australian import in his 30's and is playing ahead of a young British player, Bowen is nailed on to be this years scapegoat. He's a few dropped kicks away from being the anti-Christ.

He struggled today. He's bound to find it difficult to adjust to a new team having played for just one club for his entire career. It's going to be difficult to adapt.

The Roosters took advantage of our errors - Bowen made some - but on past performance Hampshire would have too. He almost certainly wouldn't have made the try saving tackles that Bowen did as he's never done anything like that before. They'd have picked Hampshire out as the weak link and punished him all game. That's what will happen if you put a 19 year old, who is still unfamiliar with the fullback position, is very weak under the high ball and lacks positioning sense into a WCC against the best club side in the world.

Bowen could be a poor signing, he could turn out to be a decent one, but there was only one player Wane could have picked at fullback for that game.

2 games in a new team with new structures is plenty of time. Send him home and play Gelling at the back. Bloody foreigners coming over here taking our jobs.

Spot on give him a chance

I can never understand why people want a scapegoat, it really gets my........ goat.



People make mistakes in games, and some here will say "So and so should play" when they are not, just so they can come back with a "Told you so" when things go tits up.. There was no way that ANY coach would have played Hampshire at fullback in this game... NON!! But like all watchers of the game, i can't wait to see him, Hampshire, rip teams apart over the next few years...

He needs to prove that he's good enough to replace Sam because right now his displays suggest the opposite. Not challenging for high balls and giving hospital passes to young Joe on our line not once but twice are unforgivable. He comes with a great rep but why won't he take the tackle?

He shows little passion for the game. I don't believe that SW will put up with displays like that for very long. Hampshire might even replace him next week then Bowen will have to prove he is worth the hype from our Chairman if he gets another chance.

I thought that Lockers and MMc were outstanding. All the backs except Bowen did well. Faz was good as was Bateman and Pettybourne despite his bad tackle did well too. The performance wasn't bad at all and we should take encouragement from the game

how do you know Hampshire wouldn't have done this that and the other he need to be on the field to prove he can do this that and the other

burgess has had less games than him and I think he had a fantastic game.... like I said before you have a gem there
got to give the youth a chance and I know wane does
Bowen cost you that game imo very weak under the high ball
Hampshire might not have stopped SBW but still he wouldn't have made as many mistakes overall.
Burgess proved youth and in experience shouldnt count against you

I thought Goulding had a poor game as well out of the backs.

I agree with a lot of what you have said, especially the comment about MM and Lockers (who was obviously not fit which I hope does not come back to haunt us ) but I find it hard to agree that all the backs played well.
The halfbacks offer no penetration at all and just seem content to play with this famous Wigan "structure", no doubt it looks nice when it comes off. But there has got to be more to halfback play than swinging the ball across the field all the time hoping for the overlap. Still no plan B.