Well it wasn't obvious to me at this time of night (hic). Richards was poor as a centre but once he got back to the wing he was great and that happened the 2006 season so I think you are being selective.



I don't care what team we started with, it's the form of the team we finished with that counts in SL.

And if you think the form of our team [inow [/iis as good as the form of the 2006 team at this point in the season you are deluded.

So we should break the cap and sign Widdop and Crabtree and Tony Smith for coach, just like what we did in '06

oh no wait, you can't win the league if you do that, that's why we only did it to avoid relegation, which is why I discounted it. Like I said, use the 05 team if you prefer, we'd batter them. Surely you don't agree with him that it's the worst team since the early 80s?

I must have missed a post somewhere about it being the worst side since the 80's but I just don't see the point of saying this side is less cr @p then other cr @p sides we have had.

There is an interesting thread on Mike's Wigan message board about who from our current squad would have made the 1985 cup final v Hull compared to those who did play. Answer? Lowest common denominator of two. Lockers and Faz. (and even Faz only got in because he was opposite Dunn who wasn't that good).

Thought you might have, that was what I was responding to. Couldn't comment on 85, I wasn't even a twinkle in the milkman's eye. Bought the DVD this week though, saving it for the 23rd

It's a bit difficult to compare players so far apart in eras, it may be the same rules but it's played very differently now to how it was, from the footage I've seen anyway

But your 'arguing the toss' with Wigan fans who were around at that time and before ?

That's true in terms of how its played but quality is quality. I can't explain why but it is IMO quite easy to compare our current cup final team/squad to that one.

When you watch the DVD you will realise why Henderson Gill got such a big cheer before the game tonight.

I've been watching tv for 22 years, that doesn't mean I know which is best, how it works, or how to fix it when it stops working. From watching rugby since '01 I know this isn't the worst team since the early 80s, because it's not even nearly the worst team in the time I've been watching. I'm sure most fans will disagree with you, old and young.

Logan Tomkins should be moved on the next season. Iv never seen him break a tackle, do anything from dummy half, do anything remotely different apart from run from play the ball to play the ball and pass to the first reciever. He truly is Mr average, I dont understand his contribution to our attack at all.

"lol", Let's repeat shall we for 1993 shall we? After all in 20 years surely we will have progressed.................?



FB Atcheson v Sam
RW Robinson v Charnley
RC Bell v Goulding
LC Connolly v Thornley/Gelling
LW Offiah v Richards
SO Botica v Green
SH Edwards v Smith
P Skerret v Flower
H Dermott v McIlorum
P Platt v Mossop
SR Betts v Hansen
SR Farrell v Farrell
LF Clarke vs O'Loughlin

S Panapa v Hampshire
S Lydon v Tuson
S Cowie v Crosby/Dudson
S Cassidy v Taylor


From an entertainment and class perspective, tell me again how the game has moved on in 20 years?