I'm sure the players would prefer 3000 vocal fans than 10,000 silent fans, like it or not the players appraciate vocal support. It's the connection and can/does lift their performances when needed.

Sure, I know they contribute in terms of money, but I wish we'd make use of the 'numbers' we have at times.

I think our problem is threefold. First, we've not got much to sing about. What I mean by that is, yes the team are winning most weeks and playing some very attractive rugby, but that's exactly the reason I don't think we're as loud. Back in the Noble era, we would go to games not knowing if we'd win by 20 or lose by 20, no matter the opposition (Quins Easter Monday anyone?). It was genuinely exciting and the crowd seemed to rally in a close game.

Secondly, I sit in the double letters of ES6 and the atmosphere there has noticible quietened. As far as I can tell, it's still the same people around us, except for one thing. The drum. I know this is a devisive issue, but I always felt that it added to the atmosphere up there. Now it seems like a library and the quietest it's been for the 9 years I've been sitting there.

Finally, I just dont think the DW is a great stadium for generating an atmosphere. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want us to move, but with the exposed corners any noise just dissipates almost immediately. I can only think of a few recent examples of the place absolutely rocking, the 2011 WCC and Good Friday the same year.

I would never want us to go back to the dark days of 2005/6 just for the sake of atmosphere, but I think the reason we stuck by the team back then and why perhaps the Widnes fans aren't sticking with their team is that back then we knew that we would get back to the top. Anything else was inconceivable. I don't think Widnes have that.

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Just to say on that note, if we're at Wembley against Wire, I can't see anything but a full house with 80-odd thousand voiciferous supporters on both sides. I'd love to beat Wire at Wembley and I'm sure their fans would love to beat us as well.

Great numbers? Did you see the attendance last night? Did you all forget the game was on?

Thought the Widnes fans were a credit to their team last night. Utterly outplayed, outenthused and completely battered on the pitch, and their supporters still trying to make a night of it.

Yeah, but so few of you.

Can't remember the last time half the away stand was closed in anticipation of a Widnes visit. That honour used to be reserved for the likes of London.

But as I said in another post, you're not alone. Few visitors to the DW have brought a crowd in 2013.

Lighten up guys. It was a hot day, the fans knew the team largely hadn't turned up so they had a bit of fun to make the most of the rugby, weather and being with friends. They made conga lines not riots and I'd much rather have a party atmosphere to silence - this isn't the golf! Which would you prefer?

Plus, it's a Monday night, the game is on Sky and it's against a team we were almost certain to get beat by. How many did you expect to attend??

All that is of course true. But by the same token I'm not sure folk should be applauded for drinking ale and having conga lines. But each to their own.

I go to live events, rugby/football matches and gigs etc. not just to watch the spectacle, but to be to be a part of it, to be a part of the atmosphere. Unfortunately Wigan's key demographics don't want this and are happy to sit there with a warm knit on, sitting on their hands, which has resulted in me not attending several games this season. Part of me wishes I'd saved my money last night and watched it in the pub, but I got treated to some good rugby from Wigan, a decent atmosphere from the travelling support and I won £23 on the betting, so it wasn't all terrible.

We wanted to show are support of our club no matter the score! We had a great night and hope you lot go on and win the cup, top team!

I can't believe people are knocking the Widnes fans! We have done that many a time when getting beat. Madge's last game being a perfect example

this is what i hate about are fans, its not like we did something like this when we got beat by wire. week after we won the challenge cup in 2011

No wonder other clubs fans don't like us

Well, if we look hard enough we can always find (invent?) reasons. But the main one is jealousy.

Why thank you

I think this pips mine though



Chortle

I'm sure the players would appreciate their wages being cut by 70% as well.

I am, fingers crossed, Come On Wigan !!!!!!!!!!!

If we get to Wembley, it'll be another great occasion.

The opposition will either be Hull or Wire, either of whom will present a massive challenge and will bring tons of fans.

The atmosphere will be electric.

I'd be amazed if any Wigan supporter honestly didn't want to go either because he was worried his own crowd wouldn't sing loud enough.

***facepalm***

All this talk about singing etc to lift the players how about 2 teams playing with the intensity to lift the crowd!!

The problem is the DW stadium, it's impossible to create an atmosphere unless its full. There is nothing wrong with Wigan fans vocal support, as everyone will be able to see for themselves at St. Helens next Monday.

Correct FIOS but the speccies always seem more vocal away than at home,

Agreed. It happens to everyone.

So many times I've heard away fans boast "well you might have battered us on the pitch, but at least we out-sang you on the terraces", and yet an equal number of times I've heard Wigan out-sing other fans at their own grounds. It's just the way it is.

Weren't these the same fans (some of) who were battling at Wakefield last week?

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Worst fans in super league Wigan bloody embarrassing at times drove the brigantes out now you're all moaning make you mind up

Worst fans in the league? I think that is London, as they barely have any. Wigan are the best supported club for the last 2/3 (cant quite remember) years, so get your facts right before you spit your dummy out.

I wouldnt say our fans drove the brigantes out. The fact that they thought they were hooligans turned wigan fans against the group, they didnt want to associate themselves with the brigantes. Then there was the Huddersfield incident and that drove the group apart. The brigantes always created a good atmosphere especially at away games, thats what our fans miss. The displays, the chants, the atmosphere. Not the hooligan image. We didnt drive the brigantes out, they drove themselves out. It was always going to turn sour when they classed themselves as Ultras.