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| Phil wilkinson reporting that theres no break but ligaments injury, Which can still be pretty bad. Hopefully it wont put him out for the season. He doesn't deserve to leave Wigan in that sort of manner
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| Quote ="P-J"It's only a tin pot game if you don't value international rugby league. I gather you don't.'"
the exiles aren't international though at best they are RL's version of the Barbarians an invitational team!! They had 1 current Aussie or Kiwi international playing in Leuluai. Take him out who was the last one to get a cap for Aus or NZ? Joel Monoghan? Some of them haven't even played for Aus or NZ Hodgson certainly hasn't but is the captain. Exiles concept needs changing or dropped!! We're not playing the same calibre of player we will vs Aus or NZ
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| oh forgot about Lance Hoihia or whatever it is think he gt caps after Joel but isnt a current international
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| syndesmosis injury according to Anderson.
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| We will miss Wee Tam in defence . All the best wee man .
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| Quote ="JCWWRL"the exiles aren't international though at best they are RL's version of the Barbarians an invitational team!! They had 1 current Aussie or Kiwi international playing in Leuluai. Take him out who was the last one to get a cap for Aus or NZ? Joel Monoghan? Some of them haven't even played for Aus or NZ Hodgson certainly hasn't but is the captain. Exiles concept needs changing or dropped!! We're not playing the same calibre of player we will vs Aus or NZ'"
If they were current internationals they wouldn't be playing in the SL. They're still a damn sight better than France, Wales, Scotland or Ireland.
It IS like the Barbarians game. It's as tough a test as we can muster without actually playing the Aussies/Kiwis - which would be incredibly difficult to arrange mid-season.
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| we don`t need to panic ,wane will juggle his magic and come up with something.always dread this happening in a nothing match.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"syndesmosis injury according to Anderson.'"
I just googled that :
Generally, no weight on the ankle is permitted for 4 weeks following repair of the syndesmosis, and rehabilitation with physical therapy and exercise begins at that time. It is important to avoid any twisting of the ankle for 6-8 weeks to avoid further loosening of the syndesmosis ligament tear, as well as allow sufficient time for the deltoid ligament to heal. Return to athletic activity takes anything from 8 to 12 weeks following surgical repair.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"France will never be better than they are today or at least not for a long time.
The exiles on the other hand could be better today if a coach picked the right squad or we didn't have injuries.
Add Hodgson, Monaghan, Richards and Hansen and its better than the England squad.'"
Bar Hansen, you do know how old those players are? And that Tommy plus Lima and Finch are going back to Oz?
The concept is dying on its feet due to a talent drain due to age and players leaving that it isn't going to recover from.
The fact our team was due to supply 9 players to this game was a joke and one reason it was is because there aren't enough other "Exiles" good enough to field a team in this country.
The fact we have seemingly had to play a potentially season ruining price for this pointless game has me fuming.
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| We can take leeds in the semi without Tommy, but lets hope he can play from mid August onwards
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| Quote ="pie eater and proud of it"I just googled that :
Generally, no weight on the ankle is permitted for 4 weeks following repair of the syndesmosis, and rehabilitation with physical therapy and exercise begins at that time. It is important to avoid any twisting of the ankle for 6-8 weeks to avoid further loosening of the syndesmosis ligament tear, as well as allow sufficient time for the deltoid ligament to heal. Return to athletic activity takes anything from 8 to 12 weeks following surgical repair.
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8 weeks would see him back around Challenge Cup Final time.
12 weeks would see him back for the play-offs (if at all).
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| I would expect the RFL to be paying Tommy's wages until either the end of the season or until he pulls on a C&W shirt again. If this is not the case I would expect all Wigan players to be withdrawn from the next fixture.
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"I would expect the RFL to be paying Tommy's wages until either the end of the season or until he pulls on a C&W shirt again. If this is not the case I would expect all Wigan players to be withdrawn from the next fixture.'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"8 weeks would see him back around Challenge Cup Final time.
12 weeks would see him back for the play-offs (if at all).
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Never risk anybody on the wembley surface it punishes the fittest of players. Let him play the catch up fixture and he'll be reet
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| Quote ="martinbuckley"I would expect the RFL to be paying Tommy's wages until either the end of the season or until he pulls on a C&W shirt again. If this is not the case I would expect all Wigan players to be withdrawn from the next fixture.'"
Why?
Tommy presumably wanted to play and we let him.
I would expect Wigan to do everything they can to stop our players from playing in future Exiles matches however.
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| unfortunately injuries happen he could of been injured in your next game against the demics!
but the england v exiles is a good concept adds more of a test than any other game and more excitement than the old lancs v yorks games.
and the person who said the exiles team dont have international caps etc
brett hodgson - origin NSW only never put on aussie shirt due to a certain billy
joel monas - origin and international aus
daryl millard - fiji? international
sia soliola - PNG? international
meli - unsure tink he has played international
luilui - nz international
dureau - uncapped but in a position where lockyer and thurston played
lima - nz international
hohia - nz international
puletua - international honours
waterhouse - origin and international for aus
manu - international
fa'alongo - unsure
there is plenty of experience and skill in there to give a great contest and they take it seriously as you could tell by tommy putting body on the line. If england are going to get better internationally they need more of these types of games rather than walking over France, ireland and wales no disrespect to them.
but all the best to Tommy and lets hope he is not out too long it is never good to see a talented player out.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Would anyone be bothered if this happened in the Anzac test?
Players get injured, there is nothing more to say on the subject.'"
If he had done this in an Anzac game I'd be bothered because I don't want him injured but I'd accept it. That is a recognised an important International fixture.
This is nothing of the kind and is akin to him making an impromptu appearance for St. Pats and doing the same. I'd have been as fuming if Sam had done the same when he played for the Barbarians in RU.
The only games our players should be involved in outside of club games during the season are full internationals. We do not need the Exciles game at all. We never used to have them and there is no need for them now.
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| Quote ="wolfinwidnes"unfortunately injuries happen he could of been injured in your next game against the demics!
but the england v exiles is a good concept adds more of a test than any other game and more excitement than the old lancs v yorks games.
and the person who said the exiles team dont have international caps etc
brett hodgson - origin NSW only never put on aussie shirt due to a certain billy
joel monas - origin and international aus
daryl millard - fiji? international
sia soliola - PNG? international
meli - unsure tink he has played international
luilui - nz international
dureau - uncapped but in a position where lockyer and thurston played
lima - nz international
hohia - nz international
puletua - international honours
waterhouse - origin and international for aus
manu - international
fa'alongo - unsure
there is plenty of experience and skill in there to give a great contest and they take it seriously as you could tell by tommy putting body on the line. If england are going to get better internationally they need more of these types of games rather than walking over France, ireland and wales no disrespect to them.
but all the best to Tommy and lets hope he is not out too long it is never good to see a talented player out.'"
I actually said current internationals not previous internationals. And I also said Aus and NZ internationals not Fiji PNG etc. Also Hodgson didn't wear the green and gold because of Lockyer more than Slater. And Hodgson made 6 appearance in 4 series so only played half games he was in the squad for and didn't make that level for his last 2 years in NRL so again no current internationals or players who left NRL as SOO players.
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| Quote ="DaveO"If he had done this in an Anzac game I'd be bothered because I don't want him injured but I'd accept it. That is a recognised an important International fixture.
This is nothing of the kind and is akin to him making an impromptu appearance for St. Pats and doing the same. I'd have been as fuming if Sam had done the same when he played for the Barbarians in RU.
The only games our players should be involved in outside of club games during the season are full internationals. =#FF4000 We do not need the Exciles game at all. We never used to have them and there is no need for them now.'"
this is what they said about the origin game in Aus when the concept first came out, it needs to be given a chance
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| Quote ="pie eater and proud of it"I just googled that :
Generally, no weight on the ankle is permitted for 4 weeks following repair of the syndesmosis, and rehabilitation with physical therapy and exercise begins at that time. It is important to avoid any twisting of the ankle for 6-8 weeks to avoid further loosening of the syndesmosis ligament tear, as well as allow sufficient time for the deltoid ligament to heal. Return to athletic activity takes anything from 8 to 12 weeks following surgical repair.
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I hope that diagnosis was based on experiance of the length of time it takes footballers to recover.
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| Quote ="DaveO"If he had done this in an Anzac game I'd be bothered because I don't want him injured but I'd accept it. That is a recognised an important International fixture.
This is nothing of the kind and is akin to him making an impromptu appearance for St. Pats and doing the same. I'd have been as fuming if Sam had done the same when he played for the Barbarians in RU.
The only games our players should be involved in outside of club games during the season are full internationals. We do not need the Exciles game at all. We never used to have them and there is no need for them now.'"
England v Other Nationalities took place for many years ,albiet many years ago.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade" I hope Tommy's not badly hurt, cracking player and a big loss to Super League, but I can't understand how him leading with his knees in the tackle where he hurt himself didn't result in an England penalty.'"
Quote ="MattyB"It's a move seen increasingly in recent years, Brent Webb & Sam Tomkins have put body blocks in.'"
Happening too many times now. If Tommy had used a legal tackle he would still be on his feet.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"we could always chuck some money at Cas and bring Chase in, similar to the gleeson mid-season signing. We should have salary cap space and he can take Amos Roberts salary for this year with an increase for next year.'"
Chase is a nasty little S*** who shouldn't ever be given a Wigan Shirt , I'd rather see one of the young lads promoted to the first team than sign him..hopefully Tommy's injury will not be as serious as first thought..but if we have to get someone in then please don't let it be chase
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Happening too many times now. If Tommy had used a legal tackle he would still be on his feet.'"
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"Why?
Tommy presumably wanted to play and we let him.
I would expect Wigan to do everything they can to stop our players from playing in future Exiles matches however.'"
Because he got injured in an game that has feck all to do with the club who pay his salary.
Tommy might like to go Abseiling, Skydiving or Parachuting, but I bet IFL wouldnt let him.
The RFL should pay up - end of.
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