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| Quote ="Fatbelly"And the benefactors will be Saints who play the Giants next.
Our players take the beating and Saints reap the rewards.
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You still won so it aint too bad, had you lost it would of caused mayhem!. I do agree that refs need to punish players more in game rather than the RFL after as other teams get the benefit when its your team getting bashed up. Thats the problem that this on report cop out rubbish promotes.
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| On report for that kind of offence shouldn't come into it when the cameras and video ref are there. The video ref seems to sporadically offer his view on decisions which don't involve a try, I know I always feel hard done too when one goes against us, because they don't get involved all the time. I think the ref should be allowed to ask the VR if he saw anything, not to have a look at it, just if he saw anything at the time. Maybe this is already the case, if so then it should be used more.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"And the benefactors will be Saints who play the Giants next.
Our players take the beating and Saints reap the rewards.
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I thought Saints played Catalan at the Screwfix on Friday.
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| More than one match ban though Rouges so although they have London i think they play Saints a week after.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"More than one match ban though Rouges so although they have London i think they play Saints a week after.'"
TBH I don't think Tommy Lee not playing is a big disadvantage to Huddersfield anyway.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I thought Saints played Catalan at the Screwfix on Friday.'"
Opps yes your right RG. Saints play the Giants the week after.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"I have a lot of respect for many posters on the Pie Board, the people I speak of love their team and their RL. Guess what I think of you.'"
And I care because?
Don't expect sympathy for Briers if you cheat, moan and show zero respect for other players people are gonna enjoy moments like tonight.
I very much doubt you wouldn't blink an eye if it was either Sam or Ryan Bailey on the end of a shot like that.
FWIW I don't hate Wire. I really rate plenty of your players like Westwood, Bridge, Monaghan, Harrison etc. Just dont expect me not to enjoy watching Briers get what he deserves
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"And I care because?
Don't expect sympathy for Briers if you cheat, moan and show zero respect for other players people are gonna enjoy moments like tonight.
I very much doubt you wouldn't blink an eye if it was either Sam or Ryan Bailey on the end of a shot like that.
FWIW I don't hate Wire. I really rate plenty of your players like Westwood, Bridge, Monaghan, Harrison etc. Just dont expect me not to enjoy watching Briers get what he deserves'"
NO player deserves to have a tackle like that on Briers tonight, it was very fortunate it wasn't a jaw breaker. Grow up.
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| Does anyone else think i am being really cynical or do you think lee will get a shorter ban because his team have lost?
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| It*s getting to the stage now that everytime Mr Phil Bentham is the ref at any game,, he is the one who everyone is talking about...Warning after Warning,,and still he does nothing....Good game though...
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"NO player deserves to have a tackle like that on Briers tonight, it was very fortunate it wasn't a jaw breaker. Grow up.'"
In your opinion of course.
Sadly some players push their luck.
You wanna act like an idiot like Mr Briers does people arent going to be over sad when you get a shop in the chops.
Rugby God's at work if you ask me.
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| How does he act like an idiot though, he moans at the ref?
Plenty of players do that.
In fact there is nothing Briers does that at least one other player in another team doesn't do.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"In your opinion of course.
Sadly some players push their luck.
You wanna act like an idiot like Mr Briers does people arent going to be over sad when you get a shop in the chops.
Rugby God's at work if you ask me.'"
Grow up. Do you not realise that posting stuff like this makes you the idiot? We are all rivals, we all like to beat one another, and when we do, we'll all troll to high heaven.
However, you my friend, are the idiot when you post like that.
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| I dislike briers as much as the next wigan fan but he was lucky to come out of that with no serious injury as hes neck jolted and then some. it was a horrible looking challenge but i think briers went in to the tackle looking for the floor to see out the first half as so many players do and lee caught him totally wrong but he didnt jump into the tackle so he may get let off or a lesser ban.
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| It seems to me that wishing injury on or rejoicing in injury to opposition players is becoming something of a theme over here.
Shame really. Ruins some good discussion.
Not that your mods would do anything about it. They're appear to be more concerned with making snide remarks about opposition fans before promptly locking threads in case anyone replies. Talk about cheap and cowardly!
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"It seems to me that wishing injury on or rejoicing in injury to opposition players is becoming something of a theme over here.
Shame really. Ruins some good discussion.
Not that your mods would do anything about it. They're appear to be more concerned with making snide remarks about opposition fans before promptly locking threads in case anyone replies. Talk about cheap and cowardly!'"
jog on! and he had a point anyway.... didn't see you around here last week tbh... But if you feel so let down by the moderation process on this board feel free to make a complaint in the correct manner instead of derailing a thread just like so many other whino's have done everytime they come on a Wigan board and find an opinion (not saying i agree with that opinion either) that they don't like. Hardly a theme is it really..
As I can see ONE!! person has "rejoiced" in someones injury on this thread and been told by other fans he is wrong... just like the ONE!! person talking about JJB on the other thread.
It was a nasty tackle and he should have been sent off. Chance's are he could get off lightly if they decide it wasn't intentional... despite the fact that he could have caused a lot of damage.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"It seems to me that wishing injury on or rejoicing in injury to opposition players is becoming something of a theme over here.
Shame really. Ruins some good discussion.
Not that your mods would do anything about it. They're appear to be more concerned with making snide remarks about opposition fans before promptly locking threads in case anyone replies. Talk about cheap and cowardly!'"
To be fair, it's really only one idiot on here who is coming out gloating, (similar to when Danny McGuire injured himself in the playoffs in 2010, a mouthy few wishing him a career ending injury).
IIRC - Many clubs boards went into spasms of delight when this incident happened, much more than what we've seen on here, so let's get things into perspective please:
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| Quote ="MattyB"
IIRC - Many clubs boards went into spasms of delight when this incident happened, much more than what we've seen on here, so let's get things into perspective please:
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| Call me an idiot all you want I've not said anything different to what Phil Clarke said on national TV.
The rugby gods finally caught up with Briers last night.
Again wonder how much of the Wire 'moral compass brigade' on here would pipe up if it was Ryan Bailey and not a Warrington legend?
Also didn't see much sympathy on here for Lee Smith last week.
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| Clarkey made a good point that a ref can sin bin someone and the judiciary panel look at the incident retrospectively and ban the player. That should help a ref to diffuse a heated situation. But we would like to see this applied consistently, saying that the Briers tackle was a straight red so maybe if refs use the sin bin approach we may see less red cards. Question is do we ever see that many reds?
99% of bans come from behind closed doors not from a decision on the pitch. We all remember the disgraceful tackle on Ryan Hall in the 4 nations by Thurston, we have the video technology, should we have a panel in the stands to make a red card decision? It works for American football, they have a belief that everyone should go home from a match knowing all the right decisions were made and that the outcome resulted from the better side winning.
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| McGuire, Lee Smith, JJB, Briers...Three of those in the space of a few days. Like I said, it's becoming a bit of a theme.
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| That's all good and well. But IMO people won't go home knowing the best side won until something is done about forward passes. It's meant to be a rule but the amount of tries I've seen awarded despite forward passes is laughable, and that's just since the start of the season.
I don't have an answer to this, but I do think it's a problem. The only thing I can think of is if it was reviewable by the video ref. IMO from a high up position it is possible to see if a pass has gone forward.
To be more related to this thread, the tackle last night was a shocker and deserved a red. And no I wasn't glad to see it. Briers is one of the best players in SL, I wouldn't want to see him injured, even if it might make Wire more beatable.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"McGuire, Lee Smith, JJB, Briers...Three of those in the space of a few days. Like I said, it's becoming a bit of a theme.'"
Its always been around and is nothing new. Bet many fans rejoiced when Sonny Nickle got based or Leeds fans liked it when Skerret got it also.
For me its the players that bring it upon themselves. I never want to see a honest good pro get injured but some players simply don't deserve sympathy.
Lee Smith taunted the Wigan crowd two seasons ago after his last min try. He almost had to pay for a ticket he was that far into the stand. He follows it up with late challenges and sky digs in most games.
Don't expect sympathy to be shown for players like that who simply don't deserve it.
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| Compare Moz's hit on Hansen, that's what fans want, hard legal hits, that take the wind out of players but ultimately they get up from and all is well with the world, we don't want illegal forearms or elbows or chicken wings and cannonballs. We don't want players suffering serious long term damage not even if their name is Ryan Bailey.
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"McGuire, Lee Smith, JJB, Briers...Three of those in the space of a few days. Like I said, it's becoming a bit of a theme.'"
In fairness Lee Smith's injury was from a perfectly legal hit, and as such is exactly what fans want to see, provided the injury is not serious.
Most fans want to see other players get hurt, and those that say they don't are probably lying. If it's from a legal challenge (and not done accidentally) and the injury isn't serious then it's brilliant.
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