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| BJB try looked a forward pass to me, I was sat directly in front of it.
Edit: Might have been a try for Hall, i just remember a forward pass to BJB.
There were dodgy decisions both ways, it just happened that the ones everyone will remember went our way. (For once...)
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| Yes, a few dubious decisions went our way today. However we can all remember Saints winning Wembley finals with "Dan Marino" style passes, dodgy 50/50 calls over the years.
It's in the history books now though.
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| No-one seems to mention that we got to the final the hard way...Beating Warrington a very good side (some comments tonight make me not want to say that..) and not a vintage saints side but a side that would still beat many other SL teams, We've had some scrappy games this season but also demolished some top sides. We get the rub of the green for once and somehow we dont deserve the victory...take your head out your backsides when watching any rugby league game...Most wigan fans will admit we've got away with some forward pass..but what team hasnt??? Great respect for the people that understand we got some of the decisions our way but so do many other teams as for the rest..wake up. and to be fair, the pass to lima was nowhere near as bad as some of the ones that have not been seen in many games this year.
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| Well done to the officials? What planet are you on?
There were Leeds forward passes that were also missed.
There were a few unpleasant incidents where Leeds players used their knees on tackled Wigan players, which went unpunished.
Leeds players came into the tackle too late on many occasions, but the referee did not penalise this.
I suggest the Wigan haters watch the game again this time with their brains engaged and they will see there were lots of errors in Leeds' favour also
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| Can't believe that nobody has commented on Carl ablett attempted play the ball which led up to the Leeds second! He played it lay down and just lobbed it through his leg for McGuire I think to pick up! Swings and roundabouts but the challenge cup will be sat on wigans team coach today and not the Leeds one!
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| Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Love this thread, you trolling gimps can't stand that Wigan are back.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Seriously, your either extremely childish or just plain stupid.
I'm sure you couldn't do any better at officiating but if you think you can I look forward to seeing you have a go.
Refereeing a final is not an easy job at all. Bentham had a good game and could not be held responsible for the Finch 40/20 call. That was primarily a touch judge call.
Whether he got it right or wrong doesn't matter now. Everyone makes mistakes and bad calls - they are only human. There were also a couple of calls that went against Wigan but half of this forum are too busy in the pub to bother moaning'"
Im a wigan fan thought he had a good game,shock, in reality the rest of the rugby league world thought the officials were shocking, by the way, not Wigans fault the officials were shat.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"Can't believe that nobody has commented on Carl ablett attempted play the ball which led up to the Leeds second! He played it lay down and just lobbed it through his leg for McGuire I think to pick up! Swings and roundabouts but the challenge cup will be sat on wigans team coach today and not the Leeds one!'"
Do you not think it was a penalty to Leeds and the ref played on.
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| Quote ="MTK2"Do you not think it was a penalty to Leeds and the ref played on.
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No. The rules plainly state that the player must regain his feet before playing the ball. A Wigan player was in contact with him when he played the ball, but that is only because he hadn't yet regained his feet.
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| Quote ="talulah"No. The rules plainly state that the player must regain his feet before playing the ball. A Wigan player was in contact with him when he played the ball, but that is only because he hadn't yet regained his feet.'"
He hadnt regained his feet because the wigan player had hold of it, its that simple,the tackle was complete, he trys to stand up and play the ball but cant because the Wigan player has got hold of his foot.
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| Quote ="MTK2"He hadnt regained his feet because the wigan player had hold of it, its that simple,the tackle was complete, he trys to stand up and play the ball but cant because the Wigan player has got hold of his foot.'"
There was a similar incident down the wigan end of the stadium. One of our players tried playing ball with a leeds chump hanging allover him yet the ref gave a penalty to leeds which led to leeds scoring a try. You cant have it both ways
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| I can't believe any of my fellow Wigan fans are attempting to deal with this issue as if it's real.
We suffer a season of shocking refereeing decisions, including seeing a player suspended for the World Club Challenge on the say-so of a vindictiive opposite number, and a try disallowed in the Challenge Cup semi by the Chairman of the St Helens supporters Club. We have egg-headed prats calling for players to get 12-match bans when they've done nothing wrong, and the chairman of another SL club arranging private meetings with the RFL to "discuss our tactics" ... and then this bunch of pathetic little whingers have the nerve to come on here whimpering about a couple of 50-50 calls in the final.
Treat them with the contempt they deseve. Ignore them and let them stew on here in their own juice until one of the mods gets back from Wembley and locks this thread.
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| Quote ="MTK2"He hadnt regained his feet because the wigan player had hold of it, its that simple,the tackle was complete, he trys to stand up and play the ball but cant because the Wigan player has got hold of his foot.'"
Come on mate. If there was a penalty every time a defender makes contact with a player at the PTB we would have 200 penalties a match. It's only when the defender is forcibly interrupting the PTB that a penalty is given. That was not the case with Carl Abblett. He was trying to get a quick PTB, and fair game to him, succeeded in getting an illegal one because he hadn't stood up. It happens all the time in our game.
Bringing up insignificant things like this to try to prove that the best side lost is clutching at straws. They didn't.
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| Quote ="talulah"Come on mate. If there was a penalty every time a defender makes contact with a player at the PTB we would have 200 penalties a match. It's only when the defender is forcibly interrupting the PTB that a penalty is given. That was not the case with Carl Abblett. He was trying to get a quick PTB, and fair game to him, succeeded in getting an illegal one because he hadn't stood up. It happens all the time in our game.
Bringing up insignificant things like this to try to prove that the best side lost is clutching at straws. They didn't.'"
Simple, was it a penalty or not not that it matters you won.
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| This thread brings a big smile to my face this morning, i feel very proud of our teams achievement thank you very much!
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| Pure and Simple....
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN!!!!!
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| Quote ="Geoff"The injuries to lockers & Mossop had a lot to do with that, I think. Not seen the TV coverage yet, but it looked like Lee had done his shoulder again.'"
He couldn't lift the cup and had to get the player next to him to help. He does seem to have problems with his shoulders.
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| Did any1 c jjb walk over 2 Sam while tackled on the ground and slap him in the face. Dirty Yorkshire b*****d
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| Quote ="MTK2"Simple, was it a penalty or not
not that it matters you won.
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No, it was not - to either side. The laws of the game are meant to be [iinterpreted[/i, not taken literally to extreme. The game should flow, which it wouldn't if all rules were taken literally.
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| Quote ="talulah"No, it was not - to either side. The laws of the game are meant to be [iinterpreted[/i, not taken literally to extreme. The game should flow, which it wouldn't if all rules were taken literally.'"
Totally agree, thats why the ref played on.
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| Quote ="Colin_Fishwick"For winning Wigan the Challenge Cup.'"
The only thing that matters
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| Quote ="MTK2"Totally agree, thats why the ref played on.'"
...and why "flat" (i.e. forward) passes are not constantly pulled up?
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| Quote ="Colin_Fishwick"For winning Wigan the Challenge Cup.'"
I think the Leeds players defending had something to do with it.
Seriously though - officials make mistakes. They are human. But what they say goes.
And that's the way it should be.
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