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| Now before this goes the same way as most Wigan/Wire threads, i.e. locked, can we please cut out the personal insults?
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| i thought it was a carless tackle (made contact with the head) and it deserved a penalty and maybe a warning letter but in no way should that get a ban or get a thread talking about it.
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| Quote ="FAXE LUCAS"i thought it was a carless tackle (made contact with the head) and it deserved a penalty and maybe a warning letter but in no way should that get a ban or get a thread talking about it.'"
Neither should a tackle on the thigh which leads the tackled player to fall awkwardly, but the world almost ended in some corners of British RL.
This thread is basically about double-standards, which is very worthy of discussion.
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| Quote ="captaindan"Lets be honest, unless you are in a wigan shirt, very little gets done and you can cite so many examples its unreal:
Sean Long, allowed to play in the CC final before he was banned for betting after waiting weeks for the hearing.
Leon Pryce trying to take Brian Carneys head off at Old trafford(knock on Wigan ??)
Onthe other hand, we tackle round the legs and get a ban, Look at the ref in a funny way and get a penalty against us!!! go figure.
It goes back a very long way to the officials of today totally resenting Wigan as their own team were smashed by them in the early nineties. It will always happen and always be denied but the RFL could not run a P**up in a brewery and are so bent that they find it difficult to lie straight in bed.
That said, the big bonus is that no one else can be Wigan, we are the best, set the benchmark and wind everyone else up when we do well. Great innit !'"
Are you saying there is an RFL conspiracy against Wigan?
Really?
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"Are you saying there is an RFL conspiracy against Wigan?
Really?'"
And are you really still hanging around on this thread?
A Wire fan, and most of your posts are on the Wigan message board?
You understand how that makes you look?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"And are you really still hanging around on this thread?
A Wire fan, and most of your posts are on the Wigan message board?
You understand how that makes you look?'"
How i look to who?
I am new here obviously, look at my post count.
I am involved in a discussion here which is one of my first. if i have broken any rules please point them out and i will try to rectify.
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"How i look to who?
I am new here obviously, look at my post count.
I am involved in a discussion here which is one of my first. if i have broken any rules please point them out and i will try to rectify.'"
I wouldn't be as keen on hiding behind the rules as you seem to be. The first time you issued a challenge to be shown which rule had been broken, someone very quickly responded and showed you.
However, you are correct on this occasion. There are no rules preventing you posting on other clubs' message boards.
But when a Warrington fan only seems to want to post on the Wigan message board he mustn't expect to be taken too seriously.
But as you say, you are new - so maybe you'll rectify that in due course.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I wouldn't be as keen on hiding behind the rules as you seem to be. The first time you issued a challenge to be shown which rule had been broken, someone very quickly responded and showed you.
However, you are correct on this occasion. There are no rules preventing you posting on other clubs' message boards.
But when a Warrington fan only seems to want to post on the Wigan message board he mustn't expect to be taken too seriously.
But as you say, you are new - so maybe you'll rectify that in due course.'"
Thanks for the post, but it seems you are keen on scoring points off people.
I was merely here to have a discussion, i will pop over to my own board and leave you with it
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| Quote ="Pieman"read the rest of the thread moron....
Not dealt with by the disciplinary committee'"
it was dealt with, by the referee and deemed not answerable by the committee!
and calling me a moron really added to the debate, nice one
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| Quote ="SLIMply the best"it was dealt with, by the referee and deemed not answerable by the committee!
and calling me a moron really added to the debate, nice one
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like the thread says ..."they did not cite him".
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| I didn't think it was that bad. The Hudds player was beginning to go down. It wasn't a swinging arm, just a shoulder. However it think it deserved more than a penalty. Should have seen yellow IMO but i'm not sure it deserves a ban.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I didn't think it was that bad. The Hudds player was beginning to go down. It wasn't a swinging arm, just a shoulder. However it think it deserved more than a penalty. Should have seen yellow IMO but i'm not sure it deserves a ban.'"
The point of it all is that Morley doing those types of hits are aimed to cause injury and if Lima gets banned for that tackle then Morley should be for those.
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| Big hits are legal in the most, do we ban them all ?
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| Quote ="Yedâ„¢"Big hits are legal in the most, do we ban them all ?'"
Only those with a clear intention of injury. In some ways that was as bad as a swinging arm because he is intentionally doing something to hit someone in the head/face that he knows he won't be cited for but could still hurt or injure the player
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| You can get seriously hurt in a coventional tackle, i had 3 serious injuries as a kid from nothing tackles.
There's no escaping injuries, it's a tough game.
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| The paranoia and wire fixation on this thread is hilarious. The tacke was identical to when he hit HH last year when Hansen did unbelievably well to keep hold of the ball. Moz shouldn't have been penalised but was - end of story.
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| Quote ="Pieman"like the thread says ..."they did not cite him".'"
and therefore was dealt with... ie; they felt it did not warrant being cited! so penalty was the appropriate punishment, that's all i was saying, i'm still a little perturbed you ran away with your fingers so freely and called me a moron when you've never met me & more importantly i feel that your perception of morley's tackle like mine had been viewed through somewhat biased eyes, i feel that whoever was responsible for citing/not citing morley may have been a little more objective about the whole process.
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| Quote ="laboratoire garnier"The paranoia and wire fixation on this thread is hilarious. The tacke was identical to when he hit HH last year when Hansen did unbelievably well to keep hold of the ball. Moz shouldn't have been penalised but was - end of story.'"
Its nowt to do with Wire he just happens to be a Wire player. Its about how Lima got banned for a lot less dangerous a tackle.
Wigan have nothing to gain from Morley being suspended as we dont play you soon enough for it to matter. Apart from maybe your performances suffering against other teams and possibly dropping points.
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| Quote ="hula89"Its nowt to do with Wire he just happens to be a Wire player. Its about how Lima got banned for a lot less dangerous a tackle.
Wigan have nothing to gain from Morley being suspended as we dont play you soon enough for it to matter. Apart from maybe your performances suffering against other teams and possibly dropping points.'"
the key words are malice & intent, clearly morley dislayed neither lima was found to be showing one or both depending on how you view it.
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| Maybe his good behaviour went in his favour.
Morley is not a dirty player and his record since joining Warrington has been exemplary. It just shows how a former bad boy, given the right supportive environment, can become a reformed character.
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