Best prop? Says a lot.

Wire have Morley
Saints have Graham
Leeds have Peacock

And we have a plodder.

Yeah said the same last season but our pack seemed to overachieve, perhaps our dominant back row makes up for it to an extent. To be fair if Hock's transition to prop goes well and Lima find his feet our pack might not look too shabby.

That plodder played a huge part in us winning the league last year IMO.

Our team last year proved that you need a unit not individually good players. None of our props are good enough to compete with the 3 names in terms of quality but in terms of hard work and doing their little jobs they are doing it right. Our pack dominated saints in the GF. Graham went missing and in the last 30 seconds he spent it walking away from the passage of play looking at the ground.

Graham does that on a yearly basis though, its tradition now.

From now on a beaten finalist's sulky face is to be known as the 'Graham Glare'

As mentioned previously, Prescott is going nowhere as he's in the first year of a 3 year deal.
What we do need are experienced centres. I'd prefer Carmont to stay if Gleeson isn't to return. A replacement this season for Gleeson is unlikely as all quality players have a club and are under contract.
Rather than bring too many in we need to sort out our best half back partnership and the situation with the 9 shirt.
I'd prefer Deacs to go 7 with Finch at 6. Also Tommy to 9 with Mic Mac off the bench. MM isn't up to the 80 mins at 9 yet so do we spell the 9 position or persevere with MM to get him up to speed?
The priority for the position where we really do need a player is right centre. That may only come next season though!

TBH I want them to keep them all (except Gleeson dependant on what hes actually done.)

I think we need to do all we can to keep Carmont and Coley from retiring.

assuming we are talking about next year, have we suddenly sold sam tomkins who is our starting 6 in a fully fit squad?

Perhaps he wants to play for the Warrington All Stars in 2013 when Lee Briers retires.

probably not. its 2012 next year isn't it?

Fielden is supposed to be our big name prop in case your forgetting. Think its a bit unfair and harsh calling Coley a plodder ( did you not watch the game against St George?) when I agree he isnt a big name but has played consistently well for 2/3 years now . He has done a good job for Wigan, played better than expected. I would like to see him signed on a one year deal for 2012 when hopefully our other big name props will be playing to their potential and hype and Coley can take more of a bench role.

Sam Tomkins isn't our starting 6 in a fully fit squad.
He's the starting 1 in a fully fit squad which is the number on his shirt.
Finch is the stand off but it's Deacon who has the 6 shirt.
Sam the starting 6? Where did that come from?

Depends if Tomkins continues at 1. IMO, the halfback/hooker situation is in a bit of a mess at the moment. With Deacon not playing, Lulu can't really play at 9, lockers shouldn't really play 6 and Finch needs much more game time. The backs situation isn't ideal either, with Gleeson AWOL and Pat injured. We need to ride out these injuries and get everyone back asap.

Yes, but Lee doesn't retire until 2013, so Sammy Boy will have to be patient before he joins the All Stars

Warrington All Stars

No matter what the discussion is about those are two names which should never be uttered in the same breath!

Did a good job for NZ.

All stars more like old farts half your team will have retired by then mate good joke thou

New FB - Sam isn't a FB simple as that.
Charnley
New centre
George
Pat
Sam
Finch
Fielden
MM
Prescott
Hoff hopefully otherwise Faz
Joel
Lockers

Lima
Faz/Mossop
Tommy
Hock

I think Tommy and Hock off the bench would give us a huge lift

Calm down pal I'm not your sister

I'm expecting Dom Crosby to get some game time next year. Also I have been very impressed with Tom Spencer this year in the U20's.

I hope most of the lads already "promoted" will get some game time next year, if not this year.

Of the others, yep, I agree about Spencer, also Acton, Burke (if he stays), and maybe Murphy will make the next step up.

Is there doubt over whether Burke will stay at the club? He seems like a top prospect. Spencer has definitely been one of the stand out performers for the under 20's this year, in fact I think he's been doing better than Davies despite being 3 years younger.
Acton has lots of potential but I think he needs to work on his defence quite a bit in order to make the first team. Murphy is good but I'm not sure he's going to make it. To me he seems like a player who's capable of playing anywhere in the outside backs but doesn't really excel in any position.

Is Burke thinking of departing us Geoff?