I personally feel he is quite wasted at full back as we dont use him as much.

Agreed.

Whether tomkins plays stand off/prop or full back he is the type of player who will always be involved in the game. However, I didn't like him at full back yesterday. It didn't look right, his attacking play was very good but his attacking play is also very good when he is at stand off. But he doesn't look defensively comfortable at full back yet, however I suppose that will come with experience.

A couple of examples stand out.

1) The quins 40-20, tomkins should have called goulding back earlier in the set however he pushed to the corner and left 3 quaters of the pitch open to quins attack and they took advantage of it on a couple of occasions getting us on the back foot.

2) Their second try I think, Sam was nowhere to be seen at full back and I think richards actually tracked back and was the closest man to the tackle.

If we are to sign finch I would love to see him in the halves with sam, where this leaves tommy Id have him as starting 9 with riddell/mcillorum on the bench. Roberts needs to be our 1st choice full back because he looks so confident there. Pat and darrell on the wings. One thing the signing of a player like finch gives us is alot of options which is what you need in a gruelling season when injuries are undoubtedly going to be picked up.

Best British half back we've had since Shaun Edwards, no doubt that is where his future lies. No harm now and then moving him around if to cover injuries, or it benefits selection, he would score a bagful at prop!

Play Sam anywhere 1 - 13 he will have a go and be superb . He is just Rugby League daft .
Even when the players came out for a stroll around the pitch to check conditions about an hour before kick-off Sam and Liam could not resist having a kick about on thier own . Just so much passion for the game .

The last thing Wigan/Superleague/the English game need is another imported foreign half back. I personally hope the move to full back was temporary to give Deacon a bit of playing time. Tomkins is without a doubt a 6 and as mentioned Roberts before his injury was without doubt the form player in the league at fullback.

On another note, and another club, does anyone think Danny McGuire would make a fantastic fullback? Watching the game yesterday his support play and timing into the line won Leeds the game. Ive never thought he had the handling skills or presence to be 6 or 7.

surely you cannot be thinking that Paul "as fast as a car with no engine" Wellens is better than Amos

I think it's fair to say Wellens' contribution over his time at Saints has been substantially greater than Amos "one scapegoat season, two good months" Roberts.

You do know that Amos didnt start his career at Wigan dont you?

I think you're dramatically underestimating the value of a scapegoat to the average Wigan fan

To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback

Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!

Although it was for a very short period, he was by far the best fullback in super league at that time, probably the best player when he was on that form. Nowhere near the best in the world though, and he'd have to keep that form up for a couple of seasons to be considered the best overall player.

Roberts was the best player in super league untill his injury, he would have walked MOS.

You don't win MoS in the first 2 months of the season I'm afraid. He might get back towards that form this year and win MOS. He might not and it be remembered as two excellent months amongst lots of average ones.

Just because you start the season well doesn't mean you'll "walk" MOS if you avoid injury - all players' form varies.

Without his injury I believe he could have kept that form with the way the team was playing.

Yet funnily enough, some players win it who sit on the bench for half the season.

not sure...but didnt one of the best halves ever to come out of Wigan start his career at FB.....?................SEAN EDWARDS ?
did him no harm when he later switched to halves..maybe a spell there will help sam read the game better , and make him lethal when he goes back to 6 or 7

Still bitter about that eh?

Whilst Barrett spent the year choking against Saints, Roby was scoring at Wembley and playing in the Grand Final.

Trent in his "Man of Steel" year had extremely similar stats to Leon Pryce, who you lot have down as never a 6. Over the course of the season Trent scored 1 more try, had 1 more assist and made 2 more clean breaks than Leon. Leon won the Lance Todd and played in the Grand Final.

You were so used to watching bad players, the sight of a good one sent you all giddy - despite his disappearing act in numerous beating by Saints.

You don't know what you are talking about re Barrett. He was acknowledged as the best player in the league by the players in the players-player vote, which is the way the MoS is now determined. But if you want to put the opinion of a few journos many of whom have never played the game over the opinions of the players, feel free.

Barrett wasn't just the best player we had seen for a long time. He was the best player [iyou [/ihave seen in a long time as well whether you like to admit it or not. To put him Pryce in the in the same bracket is laughable.

Dave

IIRC wasn't Edwards only at Full-back because that was the only position available for him to play at the time?

i think it was more to do with the fact that Hampo kept breaking stuff. Edwards originally came in to the team on the wing although he was a halfback. Interestingly, Hampo came to Wigan as a scrum half too.

Spot on. All the players knew Barrett was the best player around. He carried a rubbish team for 2 years.

Couldn't have put it better myself. No further addition from me needed.