I misread your post and actually you don't allude to this Bilko - so I disagree with you! I'm sure you probably see the point I was trying to make!

Depends on form although right now id have Wire or Saints for a final eliminator at the DW (if they are the other two left) although all of them will be very tough games

Interesting the club call thats for sure, your only going to give motivation to the team you pick, although the reverse of that is you get to pick the team who's strengths/weaknesses can be expolited by your own

you can take the easy way out like leeds did last year and pick the lowest placed team, no egg on your face if you lose, and less motivation to the other team

Or the third option (you need some balls for this one

) plan to take the inform team out before OT as you have home advantage

Pick Saints every time if theyre an option. We owe them one!

i think you will finish top as you aint got cc to work on aswell. when it is down to playoffs it is whoever plays well on the day and anyone could win

Allow me to translate.... "Wire are still in the CC, and i hope Wigan don't win in the play-offs"

lmao

no i sayin you will finish top this season as you are playin the best so far. your not in cc so you can concentrate on the league. and in the play offs it's one off games so anything can happen. actually would love a wire and wigan final as i think were the two best teams this season so it be best match

As would i, so we can beat you again........

lol typical give a team a compliment as they are our rivals should expect it lol. you will beat us you wait till we come to DW see then wont we. but again gonna say one thing were gonna win atleast 1 more trophy than u

You reckon?

Do you HONESTLY believe that you can beat Leeds or Saints?

(Bear in mind when answering that you haven't done too well against them so far)

Do you really think you win both the Challenge Cup and the Grand Final?
You'll have to if you're gonna back that bold statement up.

Yes I am counting the hubcap as a trophy and we're in the driving seat to win it!

wasn't actually counting that but in finals and playoffs as stated before anything can happen

So you expect us to win the hub cap, as stated in an earlier post. You expect Warrington to win one more trophy that us, as stated in an earlier post.... So logically thats Warrington to win the CC and Grand Final...

no i wasn't counting the hub cap as a trophy i am expecting us to win atleast one trophy this year

The hubcap isn't a trophy. It's pathetic. Down Under the minor premiership means far more than over here.

It's by far the hardest one to win, it always griped me that it was only introduced after we slipped down the ranks.

Even though it means significantly less, it shows who the best team has been consistently throughout the year.

We've had some poor seasons of late, and yet officially been the 3rd best team in the competition because we played well in the last 3, 4 or 5 games. Whoever finishes top of the tree has shown over 8 months that they deserve to be there, just like Saints and Leeds have for the last few years.

I dont count it as a trophy either, although it will show weve made huge progress under MM regardless of the playoffs

If we don't make the GF, we'll have gone backwards!!!

No seriously, The League Leaders Shield is the hardest trophy to win. To keep it up over 27 games, playing every team home and away, in different weather conditions, and having injuries in different parts of the season, is fantastic and shows who the best team is. The GF is decided against one team, in one weather condition, in a one off game that is open to referee decisions to decide it. (Withers knock on in 99/ Joynt 'voluntary tackle' in 02/ Smith offside last year)

Over the course of a season the refs decisions even them self out.....or over 44 years if its England and Germany in the soccer World Cup!

rightly or wrongly I don't really view the grand final as any different to the old system of a league championship followed by a premiership tournament culminating in a trip to OT. It's only sky that have ramped it up for their own gains. I'm prepared to be trolled by accusations of clinging on to the past or whatever, but apart from a few (daft) tweeks it's essentially the same thing. There's still 3 trophies available per season and to "win the league" over the course of a season is a fantastic achievement for any team competing in any sport.

Well when you start to beat the top sides around you instead of being flat-track bullies, you may see some trophies. "The Hubcap" IS the hardest to win. The CC can be won as a one off with some fluke results, and lucky draws, just like you did last season. Where were you in the chase for the "Hub-cap" ?

Don't lets get sidetracked here. Unless we win the Grand Final we will not be classed as champions. Fans and players alike need to concentrate on what is important and that is finishing top, winning in the first play off round so we get as big an advantage as possible from our hard work in the weekly rounds.

So you are agreeing that winning the "hub-cap" is very important.... Thank you.... Winning the Hub-cap gives a team rest and a big pychological advantage.... MM has set out his stall and said "If any of you want to win anything, you have to beat us". This is with virtually the same sad, sorry looking, 5 drives and a kick team we had last year, and the year before. The level of consistancy has been phenomenal, i doubt anybody is looking forward to playing us.

The League Leaders Shield is the hardest to win, but we are not champs unless we win at Old Trafford, yeah its daft when you have an even fixture list at your disposal but they are the rules.

At the beginning of every season, i put a tenner on us winning the LLS, a tenner on the CC and a tenner on the GF.

I threw my CC one away, but i got 14/1 to win the LLS and 8/1 to win the GF. I think the bookies know which is hardest to win. A title race would be great if they brought the Championship to being given back to the league winners

It won't happen though,not as long as Sky hold the rights for Superleague.

what wont happen?