I'm the same, I'm terrible with spelling.

What "other" club?

I can't see in the post you've quoted where I refer to the "other" club.



Well who the hell are you to judge.

Some of our attacking play yesterday was a joy to watch, our first try had some great offloads in it.

The report mentions more then one coach so clearly its not an anti Wigan thing because "its hard to defeat us" as there is another club doing it according to Hetherington

For me it's clearly an anti-Wigan statement from Hetherington. The Giants and Nathan Brown also get a mention because of there use of similar tactics to ourselves.

As you'll be aware this isn't the first criticism of Wigan's style of play this year and no doubt it won't be the last. It just infuriates me that a rival chairman would come out and make derogatory comments clearly directed at two other clubs about the style of play they choose to play.

For me watching defense is as good as watching attack. It takes some good rugby to get through our defense at the min. I do think some one from the club needs top step up and speak out regarding these comments. Too many people have too much to say about Wigan's tactics.

Wigan are not doing anything wrong in the ruck.

Its a joy to watch and others are jealous.

isn't it a coincidence that the 2 games at home this year where we murdered hull and wakefield with some superb attacking rugby end up with 2 bitter yorkshire coaches (agar and e.t) slagging off our tactics to disguise their own shortcomings. unfortunately the bandwagon is now growing and this will always be in the minds of the match officials when we play.

Do I have a new addition to my ever growing list?

I'm tempted to rename it the Anti-Michael MaGuire bandwagon.

What do these people want to see. Games finishing 64 - 48? A try scored of each set of six. Defense plays a vital part in our game and imo excellent defense is just as enjoyable as excellent attack. I do agree that the play the ball (that's the time between the ref calling held and the player playing the ball) can't be too slow however it isn't. Not in wigan's or anyone elses games. This is not Hetherington worrying about the state of the game it's a fear that Leeds are about to be knocked of their perch. Next it will be wires offloads or a st helens quick play the ball.

Did Leeds not beat you with an excellent defensive display, the one you lot are saying Wigan have had all season but are now been penalised over. I fail to see how Hetheringtons and Sinfields comments after the game about it been slower than average SL games influenced the officials before the game.

You miss the point. Apparently Wire have the best defence in the league at present, yet they play open, pacey, try-scoring rugby league. Wigan don't. They play to slow the game down, which is a different approach from Wire yet Wire have the best defence in the league at present ....

We have lost to Wigan, Saints & Leeds though

Yet somehow we have managed to score 506 points, and thats more than Wire have and have only conceeded just 8 points more than Wire, so I really dont get your point

How do wigan not play open rugby. We've scored 506 points so far this season, second to your good selves. In defense, of course we try and slow the game down, EVERY team does, always have and always will. What Wigan try and do is make the time from point of contact untill the tackle is complete last as long as possible. The time from the ref calling held and the play the ball is pretty much the same for all teams (prooven by Cullen on boots 'n' all). Melbourne and most of Australia have done it for years, they tend to call it good defense over there.

The point is [unot[/u whether we are doing anything illegal/boring to watch/not in the 'spirit' of the game.

The point is that a rival chairman has thrown his weight behind the bandwagon. In some ways I can understand the coaches having a whine because they're using the media to put pressure on the officials next time we play them. That's an old Aussie tactic. But when a chairman pitches in, even when it's a low-brow, rent-a-quote chairman like Hetherington, it starts to feel like a witch-hunt. Even if he doesn't name us and uses the plural, we all know who his team played at the weekend and we all know who is he's talking about.

So what happens now? Would Wigan fans be happier if our chairman responded formally via the media or should he simply decline to comment? I think I'd prefer he didn't comment. IMO Hetherington's comments are simply a form of trolling and we shouldn't bite.

I wonder how many Wigan fans were moaning about Hudds slowing the game down last season?

Well I must admit ... when I think of Hetherington and his wife, the word 'trolls' does spring to mind.

Can't remember it being complained about on here to be honest, they got a fair bit of plaudits for it if anything.

They certainly didn't cause a storm of whingey-assed protest, the way we have. Pathetic hypocrasy from all involved.

Exactly!
Burrows says they love to play a fast game with Quick PTB's! He forget to mention "ONLY when We have it!" in that sentance!
And then 30 seconds later Gration was moaning that the game wa going soft and we could do without these Pointathons with 70/80 points being scored in a match and the game was getting too much like tick and pass!

4 of the last 5 games we've either been on a warning or had players sin binned for persistant infringements but finished the game with more or less the same penalties against as the other team!

When Jimmy Birts said the other day there was a conspiracy I didn't agree, However I do think there;s a whole Bandwagon of Brainwashing Tactics going on!

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with Wigan's tactics. They do it very well getting 2 or 3 into every tackle and so legally making it longer to clear the ruck.

I'm not sure on the Brainwashing though. What have the sinbinnings being for?

We once actually beat Bradford 2-0. It was in the cup as well I think. It was an epic game and anyone who thought it was a snooze fest because of the defensive nature of the game was an idiot. Back then you often got close low-scoring games in amongst the rest. I am sure if you look hard enough you may even find an RL game won 1-0.

These days unless there is at least 50 points a match scored some fans complain about it and by the looks of it you are one.

All Wigan have done is apply tactics that are within the rules as they are written that have to an extent (but not completely) nullified the quick play the ball. Now of that is deemed wrong by the RL authorities they need to change the rules. What they ought not to be doing is bowing to a chorus of critism from the likes of Kear and Hethringon.

What they should be doing instead is taking [ithem[/i to task because they are IMO close to bringing the game insto disrepute by constantly suggesting Wigan are doing something illegal when they are not which I interpret as them trying to influence match official and that should nto be tolerated.

We can't have a sport run on hearsay. One of the attactions of RL over RU is that it is clear what is going on and there are not a million and one technical offences a side can be pulled up by. Everybody knows where they stand or they would do if one week the rules were nit interpreted one way and the next in a different way.

Dave

I hear what you're saying Dave, one of the best games i've been to was a Lancashire cup game at Knowsley Rd between Saints and Wigan, great low scoring game.

So? You always lose to us but you missed beating Wigan by a fumbled try. I can't remember how you lost to Leeds.

My point was that this isn't about defence. It's about slowing the play down. If it was about defence then we'd all be moaning about how Wire play. Except we're not moaning about that because Wire don't slow the play down; they defend well.

It is perfectly possible to have pacey, open, attacking rugby league without lying on in a gang tackle for three hours and yet STILL have good defence. Wire prove it.

Like I said, it's not the defence that people are moaning about. It's the lying on, the slowing down. Hudds did it last year to great effect (and I believe Wigan fans moaned about it as much as anyone else last season) and this year Wigan are doing it. They aren't doing it down under this season because the two refs have ensured a quicker PTB, so using Oz as justification doesn't wash this season.

You really need to watch some more games, because im convinced your opinions are just based on what your hearing in the press. Funny how you have no problem with other things in the game, I can think of a few things Wire constantly do and get away with, same with Leeds. But lets not get into that and distract you from your obvious bais towards Wigan.

Yes were negative and dont play expansive rugby, yet somehow managed to score over 500 points and score plenty tries down the wings.... Get over it, this subject has got beyond boring and tired now.