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| Quote ="Madge"Just got this:
Thanks for your e-mail regarding the 6 April edition of 'Beswick at Breakfast' on BBC Radio Manchester.
We understand that you felt Allan's comments about Amos Roberts' suspected broken leg were inappropriate.
Allan Beswick is very well known as a Warrington Wolves supporter, who are currently battling with Wigan Warriors for the top spot in the Super League. His comments here were in that context, with rivals Wigan Warriors having scored a very convincing win in their match against Wakefield Trinity Wildcats on 5 April 2010, thus keeping them at the top of the table.
Allan's unique brand of humour is well known to his BBC Radio Manchester listeners who will appreciate that his comments here about both Wigan and their player Amos Roberts were not intended to be taken at all seriously, but were merely humorous comment borne out of frustration at Wigan's excellent result which kept them above Warrington in the table.
His banter with sports presenter Delyth Lloyd on the subject was clearly light-hearted with Allan in reply being jokily called a "naughty man" by Delyth.
Clearly in no way was Allan actually happy that a player suffered an injury - indeed he was genuinely full of praise for Wigan's performance even though it meant his beloved Warrington were denied the top spot as a result of their win.
The sports report also went on to focus on the incident itself in some depth including commentary clips plus a description of the match and a review of the injury incident with an interview with the team's coach describing it fully.
However, we do acknowledge your concerns over his comments and we'd like to assure you that we've registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's circulated to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Regards
BBC Complaints'"
Yep i recieved the same reply.
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| Beswick has always been and always will be a grade A, first class big mouthed knob, simple as. Maybe he should come down to the DW stadium and discuss his remarks .
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| Whilst I disagree with the comments, I don't know why people are so upset about the response from the BBC. It is not unusual to use templates in responses to complaints, yet this is clearly not a copy and paste job. They refer to the actual details and explain their thoughts on it (whether you agree with their explanation is a seperate matter).
Things like the last line is a standard line, of course it is, and why wouldn;t it be?
FWIW, I thought the comment was in poor taste, but aren't these guys paid to provoke and be controversial? We can't like everything they say, and had this been about Jonny Wilkinson's injuries, nobody would have said anything, and I would expect a fair few smileys on RL boards.
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| Quote ="Madge"Just got this:
Thanks for your e-mail regarding the 6 April edition of 'Beswick at Breakfast' on BBC Radio Manchester.
We understand that you felt Allan's comments about Amos Roberts' suspected broken leg were inappropriate.
Allan Beswick is very well known as a Warrington Wolves supporter, who are currently battling with Wigan Warriors for the top spot in the Super League. His comments here were in that context, with rivals Wigan Warriors having scored a very convincing win in their match against Wakefield Trinity Wildcats on 5 April 2010, thus keeping them at the top of the table.
Allan's unique brand of humour is well known to his BBC Radio Manchester listeners who will appreciate that his comments here about both Wigan and their player Amos Roberts were not intended to be taken at all seriously, but were merely humorous comment borne out of frustration at Wigan's excellent result which kept them above Warrington in the table.
His banter with sports presenter Delyth Lloyd on the subject was clearly light-hearted with Allan in reply being jokily called a "naughty man" by Delyth.
Clearly in no way was Allan actually happy that a player suffered an injury - indeed he was genuinely full of praise for Wigan's performance even though it meant his beloved Warrington were denied the top spot as a result of their win.
The sports report also went on to focus on the incident itself in some depth including commentary clips plus a description of the match and a review of the injury incident with an interview with the team's coach describing it fully.
However, we do acknowledge your concerns over his comments and we'd like to assure you that we've registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that's circulated to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
The audience logs are seen as important documents that can help shape decisions about future programming and content.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
Regards
BBC Complaints'"
Also got this reply
unique brand of humour!! ah how i laughed when i broke my leg
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| Unique brand of humour means he thinks he is funny yet everyone else thinks he is a cock but is to polite to say so.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"or what is it with tools like you calling the town and city of Warrington all the time'"
town or city...cant be both son....also its a town
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| Quote ="pedro17"town or city...cant be both son....also its a town'"
It is a town, but has a city within it's boundary.
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| I also received the same reply.
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| Quote ="Th'Observer"I also received the same reply.'"
same here . beswick is a gonk
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| Get him do a rl phone in on sunday/ get him to stand on the centre spot when we play them in july
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| I think people have blown this WELL out of proportion
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| Quote ="Conroy"I think people have blown this WELL out of proportion'"
Well you are entitled not to be offended by it.
Then again, I am.
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| Donna is a woman on a mission! Be afraid Alan, be very afraid I bet he's sweating if he has seen this thread.
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| I received the same reply so i have forwarded that along with my original email to Ofcom complaints department. By the way Allan Beswick lives in Atherleigh and can often be found in Leigh town .
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| Quote ="Donna"Well you are entitled not to be offended by it.
Then again, I am.'"
True.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I think people have blown this WELL out of proportion'"
Why do yo feel the need to keep repeating this? If it doesn't bother you, then there is little need for you to comment on it. For many, myself included, the comments were in bad taste and I expect better from the BBC. I don't take kindly to being told by yourself that I should feel the same way as you, otherwise I'm 'blowing it WELL (note the capitals) out of proportion' (sic) To put it simply, the posters who have taken the trouble to write to the BBC complaints department obviously feel their actions were proportionate or, presumably, they wouldn't have written.
Thank you for your input. We got it the first time you wrote it.
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| Got exactly the same reply. It's what I expected them to say really - I never expected the necessary action to be taken.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Why do yo feel the need to keep repeating this? If it doesn't bother you, then there is little need for you to comment on it. For many, myself included, the comments were in bad taste and I expect better from the BBC. I don't take kindly to being told by yourself that I should feel the same way as you, otherwise I'm 'blowing it WELL (note the capitals) out of proportion' (sic) To put it simply, the posters who have taken the trouble to write to the BBC complaints department obviously feel their actions were proportionate or, presumably, they wouldn't have written.
Thank you for your input. We got it the first time you wrote it.'"
It's the second comment i've made on the matter.
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| Quote ="Conroy"It's the second comment i've made on the matter.
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Hence my "we got it the first time you posted it" comment. Seriously, maybe you'd be good enough to enlighten me as to what insights you added the second time you posted it as I'm struggling to see it for myself?
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| Wonder what would happen if Alan Hansen made such a comment against a United player live on MOTD....??
He would be booted off our screens quicker than you could say "Johnathan Ross".
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Hence my "we got it the first time you posted it" comment. Seriously, maybe you'd be good enough to enlighten me as to what insights you added the second time you posted it as I'm struggling to see it for myself?'"
The first comment was my opinion that I didn't think there was too much in his comment.
The second was my opinion that people have made it bigger than it is and are now talking about phoning him on air and taking it further even though the beeb have replied.
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| Yea but Conroy the Beeb's response was unacceptable, a standard e-mail.
You think it's OK for him to take the out of what was at the time a potential career threatening injury??
He's a at the best of times.
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| Quote ="Donna"Yea but Conroy the Beeb's response was unacceptable, a standard e-mail.
You think it's OK for him to take the mickey out of what was at the time a potential career threatening injury??
He's a nice person at the best of times.'"
That's my point - I don't think he was. When you watch a game that includes the team we play the week after or that is above us, you might use the comment [i'a few injuries and suspensions will do'[/i but you don't actually wish a player to get hurt. I just think this was similar.
I don't listen to him so have no idea what he's usually like - maybe he is a grade A .
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| Quote ="Conroy"The first comment was my opinion that I didn't think there was too much in his comment.
The second was my opinion that people have made it bigger than it is and are now talking about phoning him on air and taking it further even though the beeb have replied.'"
In which case, presumably, they are neither satisfied with the BBC's response or stance on the incident. I still don't see at what point our opinions need to fall into line with yours and why you feel the need to tell us they don't, not once, but twice?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"In which case, presumably, they are neither satisfied with the BBC's response or stance on the incident. I still don't see at what point our opinions need to fall into line with yours and why you feel the need to tell us they don't, not once, but twice?'"
I never said they had to did I? I just stated that my opinion is that it has been blown out of proportion. My opinion on 9/11 is that it they knew about it. Doesn't make either of them right. They're just my opinion.
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