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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"=#FF0000So you don't think it was a stupid move by Roberts then?
I bet MM doesn't share your generosity.'"
I certainly don't, and I would VERY much doubt that MM would be too upset about our fullback stepping forward to tackle a player who is taking a tap less than 3 yards from our line - THAT'S HIS JOB !!!!!!!!!!
It was milked by Pryce, due to faking the tap twice. Amos simply happened to be the man to react first - It could have been anyone.
If anything, I believe that the penalty should have gone Wigan's way, as faking a tap to draw a "foul" is at the very least "unsportsman-like conduct".
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| Having been furious at the time, and now having watched it back.
Correct decision, stupid from Amos.
That being said, Wilkin should have gone in the first half for holding down Roberts after the scrum against the head.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Stupid behaviour from Roberts, right under the nose of the ref.
Could have cost us the game.
A man of his experience must be utterly embarassed by it all.'"
I think you need to watch it again BK before making comments like that. Pryce actually knocks on before Roberts is anywhere near him. He then regathers and goes to play the ball at which point Amos attempts to knock his arm. Scrum to Wigan.
As an aside, I actually saw Pryce appear to dummy twice whilst at the game (although I didn't see the knock on until I saw the Sky coverage). If I could see it from the back of the stand behind the sticks with thousands of bodies jumping around, I fail to see how Thaler:
a) didn't at least see the dummy, if not the knock on
b) thought the offence worthy of a yellow card.
Very poor decision but luckily not one that cost us the match, although it could have.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I think you need to watch it again BK before making comments like that. Pryce actually knocks on before Roberts is anywhere near him. He then regathers and goes to play the ball at which point Amos attempts to knock his arm. Scrum to Wigan.
As an aside, I actually saw Pryce appear to dummy twice whilst at the game (although I didn't see the knock on until I saw the Sky coverage). If I could see it from the back of the stand behind the sticks with thousands of bodies jumping around, I fail to see how Thaler:
a) didn't at least see the dummy, if not the knock on
b) thought the offence worthy of a yellow card.
Very poor decision but luckily not one that cost us the match, although it could have.'"
Please note xBrettKennyx is a Saints Troll..
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| Quote ="AJ"Having been furious at the time, and now having watched it back.
Correct decision, stupid from Amos.
That being said, Wilkin should have gone in the first half for holding down Roberts after the scrum against the head.'"
AJ, watch it agian. You're wrong. See the above post. Pryce knocks on and it wasn't seen by the ref (or you apparently! ) I'll get a timing where the ball is clearly dropped for you later, or simply use the pause button as he dummies twice. It happens very quickly and he regathers so it's quite hard to spot. However, the 'double dummy' most certainly isn't hard to spot and, I think I'm right in saying, isn't allowed. Amos, quite rightly, thought the play was underway.
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| Am I right in thinking the ref was in the way as well, more than once , at the pay the ball.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Nah...he just likes a good moan! Even after winning the last derby at KR!
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| Meli should have been bnned for the trip on Roberts when Lockers made the break from the scrum. Thaler had a nightmare today.......for both teams. He slowed the game down and could have ruined it.
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| Look ... if Wigan have done Saints on their own turf in the last derby, and 'BrettKenny' was "utterly embarrassed" by something we did, I count it as a very good day.
That said, I suspect he'd be less embarrassed if Nobby had been in charge. Though, if Nobby had been in charge, we'd probably have lost. Again.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Look ... if Wigan have done Saints on their own turf in the last derby, and 'BrettKenny' was "utterly embarrassed" by something we did, I count it as a very good day.
That said, I suspect he'd be less embarrassed if Nobby had been in charge. Though, if Nobby had been in charge, we'd probably have lost. Again.'"
The muppet is a Saint..and an orginal member of the Saints board..
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"The muppet is a Saint..and an orginal member of the Saints board..'"
Is that actually true?
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"AJ, watch it agian. You're wrong. See the above post. Pryce knocks on and it wasn't seen by the ref (or you apparently!
) I'll get a timing where the ball is clearly dropped for you later, or simply use the pause button as he dummies twice. It happens very quickly and he regathers so it's quite hard to spot. However, the 'double dummy' most certainly isn't hard to spot and, I think I'm right in saying, isn't allowed. Amos, quite rightly, thought the play was underway.'"
I will fella, in the morning though, too much effort to move now
Id disagree with you at the moment, but as I said, ill watch it again and get back to you.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Is that actually true?'"
Id love to know as well.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Look ... if Wigan have done Saints on their own turf in the last derby, and 'BrettKenny' was "utterly embarrassed" by something we did, I count it as a very good day.
That said, I suspect he'd be less embarrassed if Nobby had been in charge. Though, if Nobby had been in charge, we'd probably have lost. Again.'"
No "probably" about it. We would have lost easily.
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| Quote ="AJ"I will fella, in the morning though, too much effort to move now
Id disagree with you at the moment, but as I said, ill watch it again and get back to you.'"
Just watching the match again now mate. He definitely drops it. You'll need to get your pause button at the ready to catch it though!
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| Don't think there was any conroversy to it tbh, and Roberts doesn't even complain. He knows he was offside and it was probably just an instinct thing from him.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Don't think there was any conroversy to it tbh, and Roberts doesn't even complain. He knows he was offside and it was probably just an instinct thing from him.'"
It was, but what exactly is the ruling about dummying at the tap? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do it - and that was the first offence.
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| Quote ="Babyface Finlayson"The muppet is a Saint..and an orginal member of the Saints board..'"
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Utter nonsense.
You are a fool.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"It was, but what exactly is the ruling about dummying at the tap? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do it - and that was the first offence.'"
Not sure tbh mate. Haven't seen a rule specifically about that, whereas you specifically aren't allowed to dummy the ptb.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Not sure tbh mate. Haven't seen a rule specifically about that, whereas you specifically aren't allowed to dummy the ptb.'"
Should be a rule really, I was getting p*ssed off due to how close it was to the line. He could easily dummy until we dropped our guard and enable him to just put the ball down under the sticks otherwise.
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| A difficult one to police too.
I admit I am a little sketchy on the rules around this issue.
To my mind, Roberts was at fault for "giving himself up", in the manner of his actions.
I mean what on earth was he doing?
However, dummying at the ptb could turn our game into a laughing stock.
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| could someone please tell me why roberts got 10 minutes, leon prce clearly taps the ball on the floor and roberts has every right to grab his arm. the ball is back in play
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| never a penalty, never a sinbinning full stop!!! Dummying a penalty is not allowed he did that twice - so could have actually been a penalty to Wigan. He also dropped the ball so could have been a scrum to Wigan!! Meli could have and maybe should have gone off for the trip on Roberts. Then can't remember which saints player it was but holding down Roberts in the same incident should have been sin binned.
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