I've heard a very similar story were Edwards had been killing himself in the gym for ages and then he jumps on the scales to weigh himself but he’s still overweight. He storms off to the changing room’s gets stark b0llock naked and goes to weigh himself again but yet he’s still over his target weight so he storms into the changing rooms again and pulls out a razor and proceeds to shave all the hair off from his body right there in front of everyone.

If the guy sets himself a goal I wouldn't put money against him not achieving it put it that way.

Lets just hope one of his goals is to coach Wigan.

I know most people will shoot me down for this one but i would like to see Kear as England coach.

Firstly he is English.

Secondly, as we are not as good as Australia or NZ we need someone with a genuine passion for the country and the sport also someone with a prooven history of doing well with the underdogs, he fits the bill on all of those.

I think he would do a good job to but would want him to be full time. I also think he would put the time in to watch all the super league teams and maybe he would be the first England coach to pick on form. Having met him on a number of occasions i found his passion for the game second to none he speaks his mind and cant half motivate a team.

Fundamentally we dont have the quality of players that the Aussies have.

Get quality players and do the basics right and we will win. We dont need fancy training and tactics

Folau and Inglis - know the basics and use their skill and raw talent to beat opponents

Cor. If only we'd had you in the GB camp for the last 30 years. I bet no-one else knew it was that easy.

I used to think the same thing about the players. I've now literally watched the England Aus game about 6 times, and I promise you we did not lose because of any lack of natural talent or phsyical abilities. What we do need is what you hit on in the second paragraph, players who can do the basics right.

We lost purely and simply because we didn't do the basics right (specifically the right side defensive line, and our composure in attack - forcing the pass when we should have gone to ground, and our kicking game).

Any of the teams (including France) would have scored tries against us in the first half.

The very first thing we need is a team of players who can do the basics right, if we do that we'll always compete - we may need better players to convincingly win or win on a regular basis, but if we'd just got the basics right on Saturday it could have been a different result.

Oh and Isreal Folau, for all his freakish phsyical attributes has plenty of flaws in his game (some of them basic to)

Passion but no brains?

Better than no passion at all and i did not see much brains being used until Australia were to far in front for us to catch.

Bring Back David Waite

It is - thats all the Aussies do

good kicking game
dont drop the ball
Pass it to the backs who have pace
defend well by not missing tackles

Its not rocket science

with this much needed rugby league sports science lesson clearlyover,
i'm on my way to oz tomorrow to tell st george to dismiss with the services of wayne bennett,as i now have the blue print to a coaching masterclass,then what the hell do they employ him for?
you were right doc it's not rocket science