Well if he doesn't have it anymore, it's better than never having any like Jon Wilkin!

The relevance of your post? It's a million miles worse than the OP's!

He's closer to the Fielden of old than Pryce & Long are/were (Even at their Peak) to Johns & Fittler.

Your point is?

We need at least the Fielden of the past few weeks and if possible a vintage Fielden preformence. We've only ever had a couple of those but what a time Saturday would be to give us another. If he's not up for this one then he may aswell retire as should any of them.

Hopefully the help will be there in the front row from Prescott, Feka and Coley. I reckon Coley has had abit of a hardtime on here in the past couple of weeks due to his errors against Cas but if we looked at his stats from the HKR game he was our best prop again. He made 130metres and 20 tackles which is good going and the side is going forward well because of his and Prescotts form aswell as the newly found form of Fielden and Feka.

Hope they keep it going.

So has Ricky Bibby. Your point it?...............................

I'm sure he'll be up for it. From what I've seen of Fielden this year the effort is there........... in fact he's been pulling his tripes out! He just doesn't seem to be able to reproduce his best.

However lets not forget that his best was absolutely awesome. A lot of the critisism he gets is because he doesn't produce that form these days.

So what does he produce.....................

Well in my opinion Stuart Fielden is still a very good prop forward and wont be found wanting tomorrow!!

Agreed

Didn't someone mention irrelevant posts?

Shaun Edwards has got even more medals than Long, so naaaar!

The only trouble is, he got old too.

Deal with reality, kid. It'll make these bitter pills easier to swallow.

Lol

Cunningham as well respected as Faz only in Saint Helens.

Please don’t tarnish a true RL legends rep like Farrell by grouping him with that cheating KFC.

Any one that gets extra money from GB to keep him in RL and then walks out on his country isn’t a legend.
Any one that fails a drug test doesn’t deserve to be grouped in the same breath as legends like Farrell.

Farrell is twice the man, player and captain KFC could ever dream of.

And before you start I do respect Saints players like Graham, Gidley and Wellens and past players like Sculthorpe.

He's still a very good prop when the effort is there which it has been these past few weeks.

He's been found wanting at times this year though in the effort stakes and really struggled because of it. He seemed to be really stuck in a rut around the time of the semi final against Wire but his poor preformence in games leading up to and including that game seems to have kicked him up the backside and he's now playing well because he looks re-energised.

He'll never be the vintage, rampaging and snarling Fielden again but I agree when he's on his game he's still one of the better props in superleague.

Sorry to burst that bubble but Ricky Bibey doesn't have any Lance Todd medals... but i get your point.

Fielden has been quite improved lately but if you lot are honest it wouldn't have been hard. Even so his performances are only slightly more effective than Hargreaves who is being ridiculed on here, and his defence is actually worse.

To me he has definitely benefitted from being relegated to the bench and being used for impact rather than the early game graft.

In relation to the opening post i agree if Wigan got the Fielden of 5 years ago it would greatly improve your chances come Saturday.

But if everyone played to their best ever form Saints would be a hugely more difficult task Wellens, Cunningham, Gidley, Pryce, Long in their pomp can be outstanding, christ Flannery played for Queensland and Meli was a world beater

Ricky Bibey doesn't have a lance todd medal.He hasn't got more lance todd medals.

Sorry guys.

Bitter pills? Had my fill in the early nineties, thanks. Never fancied going back, you should learn to appriciate a bit of genuine banter.

Now that is an unfair advantage !!!!!!!!

Aye - you know what I meant



There are quite a lot of Saints fans that dismiss Edwards despite his medal haul. They seem to be the ones that want their cake and eat it



At the end of the day what's gone before is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what happens tomorrow!!

Sure does. I enjoyed the last derby more than any game in a long time - Partly because it was close and tough and partly because it seemed that both teams had a high number of local lads bashing each other for the cause.

Bring on Saturday!

Edited.

Agree with the sentiment but I'd say that's the last thing we'd want because that would mean we've finally got p*ssed off with their constant niggle, sly digs, face wipes, holding down/back etc etc to a point where a brawl breaks out. As long as we don't spend our time trying to over protect the likes of Sam from the inevitable attention Wilkin, KFC, Pryce & co will be dishing out then we'll go ok.

Still doesn't make Long in his pomp as good as Andrew Johns in his pomp, which is what the original poster implied.

Soz.

I really do wonder how some fans have such lack of common sense.

Ahhh but you see, I haven't or never would say that Saints need Bryn if we are to win the game.

No problems, I thought the post [iimplied[/i that the likes of Long in his pomp weren't ever [ithat[/i much to worry about, not like say, a top form Stuart Fielden.

The OP didn't say we "Needed" Fielden to Win the game for us either, but you thought you'd have a Pop!





I bet you'd have him on your team tomorrow?

Is that £100 burning a hole in your pocket yet?

Of course we'd take him over Bryn, but the general consensus on our board is that Bryn isn't good enough to be one of our first 4 props, but is good to have around to cover injuries (I actually like him in the back row, where he played a couple of times when he first arrived).

But we do all love Bryn, though. Especially Ski, in fact that gets a bit creepy sometimes.

Anyone else think this thread was about scooby doo when they first opened it?

Don't let Ski see that



Now I'd possibly have him, but he is 30, has been going downhill for a few years and is not likely to hit even close to his glorious past again, at least Bryn at 23 is still pretty young so has time to improve and he has hardly let us down for the buttons he has cost us.

As Donna says it matters not one jot who did what and how good Edwards, Long or anyone was its how good the 34 players play for 80mins tomorrow.