Again I agree - the only question with Mossop is whether he is a prop or a second rower. Reminds me a little of the dilemma with Peacock at Bradford early in his career when he played on the fringes. I'd personally look for him to be Bailey's replacement in the second row next season, with a view to him moving to prop if Hock returns and we have a reshuffle in the back row. Hopefully this won't delay the progress of Farrell who looks a real talent and needs games next season. Of the current forwards, I think Hansen should be the one worried about his long term place - a good defender and hardworker, but just doesn't seem to have the attacking qualities of other options in the squad and those on the fringes.

Hull were terrible we should have blitzed them. I thought Richard Horne and Chris Thorman were just terrible. I would hate to be a Hull FC fan.

So with that in mind that was an average performance. Sums super league up for me. Boring to watch. Flat passes again and again. The DW stadium is like a library.

I thought we still look a bit dodgy on the last tackle. An area we must improve on.

I thought our kicking game close to the line was poor AGAIN.

I think we miss Michael McIlorum. There was no spark at all from the acting half. Thomas Leuluai and Mark Riddell were anonymous last night. Usually Riddell makes the difference when he comes on but he had a VERY quiet game today.

I thought George Carmont was outstanding but I wouldn't play him next week. The game next week is not that important in context of the play offs to risk Carmont with that thigh injury. I would give Darrell Goulding a shot.

Cameron Phelps made two kicks last night and both were outstanding. If we want to take some of the pressure off Leuluai and Tomkins it shouldn't be O'loughlin it should be Phelps.

Overall dull game and not a performance that will worry any of the top four sides in the competition. We will have to be a whole lot better if we are to have any chance of reaching the Final.

It's a good job it isn't play off time yet then!



9 wins out of last 11 and your bound to get some flat performances now and again!
Thank God it was last night and not 2 x weeks time!

Had a sling on last time I saw him a couple of weeks ago. Not sure what he's done or how serious it is but he may not be available.

Bugger I forgot about that.

Well the only other suggestion is Karl Pryce I guess.


I would still try and give George Carmont a weeks rest before the play offs.

He dislocated his shoulder in the match at St Helens. I'm guessing you don't remember that?

Ermmmm of course I do, why wouldn't I

A good portion of the South Stand was booing Roberts for his greed in not passing inside to Leuluai, when he wriggled out of two tackling defenders and dove over the line to score his 2nd try. Boo's quickly turned to cheers........was very amusing at the time.

He should have passed though lets be honest! I was already cheering thinking he was gonna pass, then he didnt i turned round looked at my dad in disbelif turned back round and he was putting the ball over the line

Had he passed Tommy would have been tackled. The cover was coming across.

I think when you watch the replay on the Superleague show or Boots'n' all you'll see that is the case.

I had my head in my hands and was thinking 'Oh you f**king idiot', when he wriggled away and scored a cracking try. Good job he scored though!

Will have to check that on Monday on the Superleague Website, not sure about that. Leuluai looked certain to me.

Riddell was very lethargic and his passing was at times awful. I was watching pretty closely and the number of times his passes were at head height and difficult to take was way too many. Given we were not playing our reserve hooker on the bench he needs to be playing most of the game. Instead he seemed to spend a long time on the bench and I don't think Noble had any choice but to take him off as he looks as unfit now as he did at the start of the season.

I really don't know what people see in him.

Dave

Me too...im giving him the benefit of the doubt at the moment tho cos he has improved marginally in the last few weeks. if I keep bashing him all the cherry and white specticals brigade come out and try and argue the opposite dilluding thereseleves hes good!!



For me hes in the same boat as richards and mathers were after their first season and could go either way......he has 10 games next season to prove himself....if he plays as expected i would say then do the same as mathers and get rid! He and roberts need a miracle Pat Richards turn around next season if they are to remain at wigan as frankly what weve seen this season wouldnt be good enough for salford let alone wigan

There was a man on Tommys's back that would have smashed him if he'd passed!

Roberts didn't put a foot wrong last night and did some very good things going forward!
Was in my Top 3 again easily!

But Hey, If AndyedWiganrl thinks he's garbage he must be!

Ridiculoys comment!
But coming from you I suppose that can only be expected!

The fella in front of me nearly killed himself screaming BNP level abuse at him, the suddenly "he's bloody brilliant is Roberts"

Well there you go. Given the view from the East Stand I thought he had cocked it up. From there I was surprised he scored and thought the Hull fans would have not been impressed with the tackling.

From where you sit it was obviously a deliberate and well thought out bit of RL.

I thought Roberts played well overall but this little debate just sums it up for me because when someone suggests he was a bit fortunate things panned out as they did someone over analyses it and turns it into something it probably was not, some deliberate bit of sublime play.

My view is he just went for it and had no intention of passing the ball never mind thought about it but decided not to. Who knows but in some peoples eyes it was sublime and in others rather fortunate.

Dave

He really ought to have passed it. If the Hull full-back was any good he'd have truly punished him and bundled him into touch. At that point in time regardless whether Tommy was covered, Tommy had a better chance of scoring. However let's give credit where credit is due, he made a mistake but made up for it in the best way possible.

And your slant on it isn't equally as biased the other way????

He didn't deliberately do a piece of sublime play and Rogues Never said he did, he intentionally didn't pass it due to Tommy being covered.
The rest was just him reacting to the FB not tackling him etc. and due to poor defence on Hull's part he scored!

No-One is trying to make out it was some kind of genius try, just a Good try largely in part to some poor defence from Hull.

Still one of the Top 3 players for Wigan n Friday. As he was last week!