Newton & COKE HEAD Hock both spring to mind here.

And where are they now?

Location: St Helens

Well done.

How about 'Needles Cunningham'?

Or even the Long Family and their 'herbal remedies'?

Alleged

Also come on, you couldnt class Cunningham or Long as dirty players.

No, though they have had their moments.
Re: Off the field activites they are far from whiter than white.

Ganson had already blown for a pen as Lockers was offside.
I don't think he saw it.
IMO took advice from the TJ & MC.
Ganson got the most important decision of the night right.
We can all think of some refs who'd have bottled it and put it on report.

To be fair his attitude as a headline brabber ensured Howell walked, but the same attitude also ensured he very pettily in my opinion walked Tomkins.

No, Dont get me wrong I'm well aware of that. Ask Jukesays about my feelings on Mr Long! Just glad two of his partners in crime now play for you and Salford respectively!

really was shockingly bad , only do that if you're being malicious

however it does remind me of a tackle by a certain Mr Cassidy off a drop out at headingly on morley albeit it was some time ago

Just seen it on TV, one of the worst i've seen.

Ganson though about joel 'its his little brother and i feel sorry for him'

Having just watched the replay, and something I didn't notice when watching it earlier, Howells last run with the ball ended with a tackle involving Tompkins where Howell at one point upside down and on his head (his own not Tompkins). From the subsequent wide angle shot it seemed that Howell was holding himself when he got up as if he had bean hurt in the tackle.

Not making excuses for Howell, in fact far from it (I think he shouldn't play again until August at the earliest), but any niggle in the previous tackle may explain his disgraceful 'attack' on Tompkins.

I also thought Sam Tompkins was lucky to avoid at least a talking to for dropping his elbow into Howells head whilst Howell was on the ground.

Its Tomkins.

I agree to a certain extent on the last post Tomkins actions while Howell was on the ground were not something he should be proud of. To be on the recieving end of a challenge like that was bad though, and while i do not excuse Sam's actions of retaliation i can in part understand them, but it was very silly of him to get back involved.

Having watched the replay it is one of the worst I've seen and reminds me of the Mick Cassidy challenge on Adrian Morley from 1998 at Central Park.

Wigan coach Brian Noble was pleased with his side's effort after crushing Harlequins 40-12 in the engage Super League.

The Warriors ran in eight tries at the JJB Stadium as the Londoners crumbled after the sending off of David Howell.

The centre was dismissed just after the half-hour mark, with Quins already trailing 14-6, for a dangerous head-high shot on Sam Tomkins.

Noble said: "I thought it was a good show all round.

"We got a bit sloppy in the last 10 minutes but that is credit to Harlequins, they are a team that are never going to go away.

"We started well, our go-forward was good and our kicking was good.

"The game was probably out of reach for them at half-time with the sending off as well.

"My eyesight's not so good - I can't quite see the screen - but it certainly looked like a forearm or an elbow."

That bit in bold might explain some of our poor showings this season

Someone should have grounded and pounded him when he was on the floor after he did it the dirty swine!

I've just seen the "incident" on SSN, absolutrly shocking, a full swinging elbow aimed at sam, very nasty, i'd expect a very minimum of 5 matches and should be more, was sam ok?

Worse than Newtons IMO and he got a 10 motnh ban which I did think was a bit extortionate. Would expect at least a 6 game ban though but knowing the RFL he'll probably get three with him not being a 'big name player'.

Although the damage was not as bad i agree the incident was up there with Newtons. Newton lead with the forearm, Howell simply threw an elbow to the jaw.

IIRC Cassidy got a 10 match ban for that.

Totally agree. I could see what Newton was trying to do although it came off very very wrong. He was trying to put a big hit in but Long was dipping so the forearm connected with the jaw rather than the chest. Howell's was just clear intent to injure someone but it seems unless you do actually injure someone you don't get the lengthy ban you deserve

Ye mate, Bad shot wern't it? Sam was fine and got the MOM award from the local sponsors

That was a shocking challenge, it couldn't be anything but intentional! I'm expecting him to get at least a 5 match ban.

The RL should make an example of this incident, after watching it live then on SSN, that should be Howell's 2009 season more or less over! Seriously out of order, 10 match ban min!

The forearm that Barrie Mac did on Paul Sironen at Central park in 1992 (i think) was on a par with Mick Cassidy's "effort" on Adrian Morley, however Barrie never even got penalised for it


I'm not condoning this type of thing i hasten to add, they are cheap shots and as such should all warrant a minimum five game ban.